Thom:

I think it does. I've allowed this when the contractors have ignored my plans 
and specs and installed it "the way we always do" with the C900 through the 
floor.

My only hesitation comes from the fact that I never get to be on site when the 
work is being done, so I am a bit afraid to allow another joint below the slab. 
Still, if they install it properly, with all the restraints, etc., then I can 
't see why it wouldn't meet minimum requirements.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
Fargo, ND

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: 13, 2007 23.1.6.1.2

Based upon the handbook interpretation PVC (C900) cannot be used above the
floor to supply the fire systems, because it is subject to Mech. damage,
solvent attack, or corrosive solutions. And as the commentary addresses it
is not listed as "Above ground Piping"
So we have a project where one AHJ allowed the underground guy to install
C900 up to the transition to cast iron @ the backflow, and a second AHJ over
ruled the first AHJ quoting 23.1.6.1.2. (Second AHJ after rough inspection
completed by 1st AHJ) The riser is located in a very small room, and the
main under the footer is at least 8' down to the MJ 90' ell.
If the CG gets the underground guy to dig down only 3'-0" installs a MJ
sleeve, and then a Ductile Flange spool extension through the floor to the
BFP. And this entire assembly is restrained to the MJ 90' elbow at the base.

Question: Does this meet the requirements of NFPA 13, chapter 10 and 23?
(The PVC will be underground, where it's listed to be.)I personally believe
it does, but I would like to hear from you all.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



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