Garth: 

I'm not saying that a drain would be required on an "Outside" installation,
as we see on vacation to those warmer climates. We're talking installations
inside of buildings. The IPC says a "Riser room" is a mechanical room, and
requires a min. 2" drain in all mech rooms. Double check or RPZ the room
will have a floor drain of 2" or it may be installed in a freely draining
area or words to that effect.(So if it's in a room it's a mech. room and
must have a drain, if it's in a warehouse or other open area it must be
freely draining.

Now RPZ are their own animal for drains. Here in CO our Cross Connection
Control Manual has a "Drain flow Chart" and Notes "Floor Drain capacities
are established by the Floor Drain MfG's. The reason is that the air gap of
a RPZ is usually not large enough to actually capture a full flow discharge
from the intermediate chamber (Reduced Pressure zone) Most RPZ's have
smaller air gaps than the max flow they discharge would require.

Here's one of my favorites: 3/4" RPZ with 100 Psi will discharge 100 GPM
from its relief. That translates into a 4" floor drain from most MFG's. OK
building drain is 4" so just put a 4" floor drain in the Mech. right? Wrong!
The plumber following the plumbing code only put in a 2". Think the GC is
going to put in a 4" after the concrete is poured? Not likely. This is where
"Relief drains" come in. You need to provide a way to allow the extra 50 Gpm
that the 2" drain won't handle to drain to the outside or another approved
location.(Without that relief, the room would fill with water, and
eventually burst from the internal loads of the water filled area.)

Now let's extend that out to a 4" RPZ @ 100 Psi. Flow chart says 650 Gpm or
7-4" floor drains in the riser room. Not too practical, since once again
that may be larger than the building drain. Answer? 2" floor drain the
plumber installed plus a 8" relief drain to the outside. (We typically use a
Fernco Cap (rubber) without the tightened band over a piece of 8" pvc. By
leaving the band off, the cap will blow off usually before it's running 1/2
full. The cap keeps out bugs mice ect. And helps keep heat in during cold
weather. A little joint lube on the cap also helps ensure it will blow off.)


Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


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Subject: backflow preventer drains


 (All rooms containing a backflow preventer are required to
> have a drain and a relief drain.)

Thom - Could you give a reference for this requirement?  I know there are
requirements for RPZ installed below ground level.  I have seen three
buildings that were flooded by RPZ above ground installations where the
water had no place to go.  Is this requirement for DCVs as well?

Thanks,
Garth


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