We do a lot a installations for a grocery chain here and we put dry systems to protect the front canopies. Haybales at Halloween, Xmas trees, they are NOT Porte Cocheres they're larger than 4' overhangs with storage below.
glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Exterior canopies at grocery stores: do they need sprinklered? Most of the grocery stores I see have enough stuff piled outside to make sprinklers warranted. I just did a hardware store and sprinklers were required under the canopy. At 03:53 PM 2/23/2009, you wrote: >I have a question: Your typical grocery store with exterior canopy, >noncombustible or limited-combustible construction. Code is NFPA 13 >2007 edition. > >8.15.7.2 permits omission of sprinklers if it is non-combustible. In >commentary, the book gives a drive up bank windows, and hotel >canopies as examples where they would likely be ommitted. > >8.15.7.5 says sprinklers are required over areas where combustibles >"are stored and handled." > >I see grocery stores with and without sprinklers in the outside canopies. > >Is placing a pallet of Christmas trees (during Christmas) outside or >a pallett of BBQ Briquets during summer ouside constitute "Storage," >or "handling of combustibles?" > >In your opinion, do these grocery stores meet the criteria for omission? > >Forest Wilson >Cherokee Fire >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
