Ron, I've come to the conclusion that PEs, like hack writers, get paid by the word and so, present company excluded, write long pieces of drivel they call reports that tend towards wordy tomes.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron, > > I would be interested to see where the unnamed firm got their data. I have > recently done design for some prisons in TX. The construction is concrete > and the combustible loading in the dorm and common areas is minimal (I would > think mostly bedding or furniture upholstery). The separation between units > is concrete block or concrete walls. I would also think that the most > prevalent ignition source would be smoking as most of the other potential > sources would be isolated from the population. Given those circumstances, I > would think the QR reduction would be appropriate. > > Also, the quote said "Due to the higher than normal potential for > fire.....". That deals with frequency and not severity. The QR deduction > assumes that by getting water to a fire earlier, the fire will be knocked > down quicker, lessening the severity. It's apples and oranges. > > > > At 06:02 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: >> >> I would like the take from the PE's on forum on how to deal with a plan >> review comment from an unnamed engineering firm (RJA). >> >> "Due to the higher than normal potential for a fire in the occupant >> sleeping and common areas, the reduction in fire are (remote area) for >> quick response sprinkler in accordance with NFPA #13 Figure 11.2.3.2.3.1 >> is not a good engineering practice. Please revise the hydraulic >> calculation to account for at least the minimum 1500 square foot design >> area as specified by NFPA #13." >> >> The hazard is a dormitory at a minimum security prison. >> >> Ron Fletcher >> Aero Automatic Sprinkler >> Phoenix, AZ >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, Connecticut > www.fpdc.com > 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
