Dude, what you've got there is a piece of cake compared to some of the stuff we deal with on a regular basis. I'd love to have something as simple as that now and then. <sigh>
It's really not as bad as you think, but I realize if it's not a regular menu item it can be kind of daunting. There are just a lot of questions that need answered. NFPA 30 has this addressed. IIIB's as far as combustibles are at the bottom of the list, least hazardous, quantities allowed are rather generous per the IBC. Also and depending on arrangements and quantities you will need to define this space per the IFC/IBC. Regardless, you can pretty much tell the owner that the system he has now ain't gonna fly with this new arrangement. Going from a Factory to Storage occupancy rarely transitions easily. If you decide to move forward with it you need to employ someone with good code familiarization and special hazards experience. This is no simple "apply NFPA 13 and all local,state,federal and inter-galactic codes" kind of job. Like I said, there are a lot of issues that need to be uncovered and researched but it's not that bad. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Rack Storage of Motor Oil Yeah... I was reading the data sheets this morning. LOVED the paragraph about the small plastic containers of oil.. Something like. "System will either work if early on small fire, or will fail altogether" LOL. Even though it is IIIB, the arrangement and Volume is scary. Not to mention the mix. R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rodney Hamm Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Rack Storage of Motor Oil Matt, You have some VERY complicated and high hazard issues at this warehouse. I would suggest finding someone well versed in fire protection schemes involving flammable/combustible liquids AND you should take a long hard look at FM Global Data Sheet 7-29. The non-confidential version of the data sheet is free on the internet (http://www.fmglobal.com/FMGlobalRegistration/default.aspx?action=new). Good luck and be careful (from a design & liability standpoint)..a fire incident involving the storage arrangements you described could be severe! Rodney K. Hamm, P.E. President/Owner Falcon Fire Protection Office (478) 953-1677 Cell (478) 396-6988 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:53:54 -0600 From: "Matthew J. Willis" <[email protected]> Subject: Rack Storage of Motor Oil To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <f2161fdd99ac42358548955d589a1...@matt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking to do an evaluation of a warehouse (originally manufacturing .20/1500) that has now been bought by an oil distributor. When I walked around looking, all kinds of red flags went off. I am now concerned that we cannot get there from here. Gut says this is outside of sprinkler protection. So I want to be sure before I say we cannot help you. Bulk of product is standard motor oil in non-relieving drums (55gal), stored on racks, mostly 3 high. Also contained in same warehouse throughout is solid pile storage to around 12_ of cases of 1qt (plastic) containers that you would purchase from your favorite reseller. Mixed in are gallon containers of anti-freeze stored solid pile as the 1qt containers of oil. Not to mention the moderate placement of Varsol and starter fluid here and there. This space appears to be just under 80,000 Sq Ft. Of course there is no containment or other controlling measurers built into floor or racks. The 1, 1, 1< branch lines looked awful lonely at the roof.. Thanks, Matt Matthew J. Willis Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
