George, This is a dispensing unit and I doubt we'd dispense flammable liquids from a similar device. Sprinklers in this case, I believe, would be similar to sprinklering the inside of the entertainment center because it's big or the dresser because it's a storage facility for textile products in transit. That is, of course, if Tony's unit is just a big refrigerator.
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:02 AM, George Church <[email protected]> wrote: > Would we consider different treatment if it were stocked with combustibles > or flammable liquids? > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler > > Tony, > > I like the idea that it may be a large appliance. We don't sprinkler > the Coke machine or the Red Bull machine. Is this thing constructed on > site or is it brought in as a unit. If the latter and since you can't > walk in I'd call it an appliance and not a room (or space). > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:15 PM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >> Haven't seen the cooler. Someone asked me whether it should be > sprinklered. >> I will have to find out, but meanwhile I'm guessing it is stocked from >> behind, the same as milk coolers in stores. Cooler inside or outside? Not >> sure if I understand the question and its significance. Being a beer > cooler, >> it would be cooler inside than outside. >> >> Tony >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd > Williams >> Sent: April 23, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler >> >> Is it stocked from the front or is there a walkway behind the pickers? >> Cooler inside or outside? >> >> >> >> At 04:17 PM 4/23/2009, you wrote: >>>An update as I've additional information. >>> >>>The cooler is 30' long 4' wide and 7' high. It has glass doors and open >>>metal shelves. So you grab the beer closest to you and the next one slides >>>forward. When stocked full, there is hardly any empty space inside. You >>>might see similar ones in stores that sell liqour. Does it have to be >>>sprinklered? >>> >>>Tony >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [email protected] >>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest >> Wilson >>>Sent: April 23, 2009 12:48 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler >>> >>>They can also shut down the cooler and use for general storage. >>>I saw one after it burned. It was like a crushed can. >>>Forest Wilson >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: "A.P.Silva" <[email protected]> >>> >>>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:16:20 >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler >>> >>> >>>Exactly, though one difference may be in this case, the storage quantity >> may >>>be more. I think this is a grey area in NFPA. We provide heads in walk-in >>>freezers and coolers. But what are the chances for a fire inside these? >>>Haven't heard of any, but I suppose there could be an electrical fault > that >>>could start a fire. >>> >>>Tony >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [email protected] >>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris > Cahill >>>Sent: April 23, 2009 11:02 AM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler >>> >>>Doesn't sound much different than the milk cooler or pop cooler or the >>>freezer isle in a grocery or Qwik Mart. Never saw sprinklers in these. >>>Argument is it's large appliance. >>> >>>Chris Cahill, P.E. >>>Fire Protection Engineer >>>Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. >>> >>>763-658-4483 >>>763-658-4921 fax >>> >>>Email: [email protected] >>> >>>Mail: P.O. Box 69 >>> Waverly, MN 55390 >>> >>>Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW >>> Waverly, MN 55390 >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [email protected] >>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva >>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:14 AM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Walk-in cooler >>> >>>Generally the industry practice (from what I know) is to provide > sprinklers >>>in walk-in coolers and freezers. The cooler I am looking at is a beer >> cooler >>>approx. 30 feet long, 10 feet deep and 7 feet high. It is full with >> shelves, >>>and no one could "walk-in". Would it have to be sprinklered? Anyone has >> come >>>across a similar situation or have any opinions? >>> >>>Tony >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> Todd G. 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