Would we consider different treatment if it were stocked with combustibles
or flammable liquids? 

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler

Tony,

I like the idea that it may be a large appliance. We don't sprinkler
the Coke machine or the Red Bull machine. Is this thing constructed on
site or is it brought in as a unit. If the latter and since you can't
walk in I'd call it an appliance and not a room (or space).

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:15 PM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
> Haven't seen the cooler. Someone asked me whether it should be
sprinklered.
> I will have to find out, but meanwhile I'm guessing it is stocked from
> behind, the same as milk coolers in stores. Cooler inside or outside? Not
> sure if I understand the question and its significance. Being a beer
cooler,
> it would be cooler inside than outside.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
> Sent: April 23, 2009 2:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>
> Is it stocked from the front or is there a walkway behind the pickers?
> Cooler inside or outside?
>
>
>
> At 04:17 PM 4/23/2009, you wrote:
>>An update as I've additional information.
>>
>>The cooler is 30' long 4' wide and 7' high. It has glass doors and open
>>metal shelves. So you grab the beer closest to you and the next one slides
>>forward. When stocked full, there is hardly any empty space inside. You
>>might see similar ones in stores that sell liqour. Does it have to be
>>sprinklered?
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest
> Wilson
>>Sent: April 23, 2009 12:48 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler
>>
>>They can also shut down the cooler and use for general storage.
>>I saw one after it burned. It was like a crushed can.
>>Forest Wilson
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "A.P.Silva" <[email protected]>
>>
>>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:16:20
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>>
>>
>>Exactly, though one difference may be in this case, the storage quantity
> may
>>be more. I think this is a grey area in NFPA. We provide heads in walk-in
>>freezers and coolers. But what are the chances for a fire inside these?
>>Haven't heard of any, but I suppose there could be an electrical fault
that
>>could start a fire.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
Cahill
>>Sent: April 23, 2009 11:02 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>>
>>Doesn't sound much different than the milk cooler or pop cooler or the
>>freezer isle in a grocery or Qwik Mart.  Never saw sprinklers in these.
>>Argument is it's large appliance.
>>
>>Chris Cahill, P.E.
>>Fire Protection Engineer
>>Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
>>
>>763-658-4483
>>763-658-4921 fax
>>
>>Email: [email protected]
>>
>>Mail: P.O. Box 69
>>         Waverly, MN 55390
>>
>>Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
>>               Waverly, MN 55390
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva
>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:14 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Walk-in cooler
>>
>>Generally the industry practice (from what I know) is to provide
sprinklers
>>in walk-in coolers and freezers. The cooler I am looking at is a beer
> cooler
>>approx. 30 feet long, 10 feet deep and 7 feet high. It is full with
> shelves,
>>and no one could "walk-in". Would it have to be sprinklered? Anyone has
> come
>>across a similar situation or have any opinions?
>>
>>Tony
>>
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