I agree with you there is a lot of wood present and a lot of air spaces. NFPA defines this commodity as a Class II, if we open the box a little and just say there is a way to secure these barrels to a conventional wood pallet and floor stack, it still falls under the criteria of a Class II in accordance with Section 5.6.3.2 (2007) if I'm not missing something. This scenario has a whole lot more wood in it than the cradle method. If this arrangement were indeed classified as rack it would have to be portable rack, my problem then becomes the aisle - it is only 3 feet assuming I had 4 feet my density more than doubles to a .32 in accordance with Table 16.2.1.3.2.
The more I look at this I think the best option would be to treat it as racked storage, that way there shouldn't be any second guessing. Thanks for your input. Jim Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Tiroly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Wine Barrel Storage What I envision is a lot of wood and a lot of air spaces surrounding the wood barrels and cradles. It seems much more than OH2 storage hazard. Not as bad as pallet storage but plenty of surfaces to burn when 18ft high. Not as bad as whiskey barrel warehouse. No answers just more to think about. Arthur Tiroly ATCO Fire Protection Design Tiroly and Associates 3300 King Ave Cleveland, OH 44114 216-621-8899 216-570-7030 cell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Johnston Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Wine Barrel Storage Greetings All: Has anybody on this forum designed systems for wine barrel storage? I'm guessing the Californians have. Barrels are in horizontal position, stored on a cradle, cradle follows curvature of barrel, cradle / barrel is stacked 6 high total height of 18'. There is a 6" clearance between stacks i.e top of barrel to bottom of barrel, small transverse and longitudinal space. My gut re-action would be considering this palletized storage versus rack. When the barrel is picked up so is its corresponding cradle - that's where I come up with palletize. Alcohol less than 20% in wood barrels is a class II. Any input? Jim Johnston, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Inland Fire Protection, Inc 1100 Ahtanum Road Yakima, WA 98903 Phone 509-248-4471 Fax 509-248-1180 [email protected] _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
