I have one of those pumps kicking around somewhere, as well as the
pressure switch and the semaphore sending unit. As far as I know the
clockworks semaphore boxes are still being used in the world famous
Pike Place Market where disrespectful fishmongers actually toss dead
fish for public entertainment. Obviously on a par with cock fighting,
bear baiting & dog fighting.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Charles Thurston<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello George,
>
> That was what the ADT (FTW/DLS) office I was in put in for the waterflow 
> switch also.
>
> Monday, June 29, 2009, 7:54:47 AM, you wrote:
>
>> If you had a jockey pump and I'll assume a fire pump, why would you need an
>> excess pressure pump?
>> glc
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Coastal
>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:49 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re[2]: mercoid switch on wet riser
>
>> Hello bverhei,
>
>> So I am not the only one that remembers the old ADT 6121. When I started
>> with them back in 1978 they were on 99% of the Wet risers. Had to be careful
>> with the setup on em as it was easy to exceed the rating of fittings when
>> you were downstream of a Jockey pump.
>
>> Sunday, June 28, 2009, 8:09:43 PM, you wrote:
>
>>> Excess pressure pump. The definitive solution where someone in the range
>> of AHJ's takes
>>> stopping false alarms due to pressure surges. I do mean stopping, not
>> reducing. Required
>>> in Vancouver (and the rest of B.C.?). Seems New Zealand is on the list.
>
>>> Can be done without the Gamewell (ADT?) unit. Not required to be listed
>> for fire
>>> protection service, unless unit also act as the switch for the fire alarm
>> system interface.
>
>>> Yours,
>
>>> Bruce Verhei
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Duross" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:51:04 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>> Subject: RE: mercoid switch on wet riser
>
>>> What Todd said. They probably replaced the original compound type with a
>>> mercury one.
>>>>From what I know, Gamewell isn't making them anymore. I think they ceased
>>> last summer, I drove out to get a diff. switch and they told me.
>>> Just as an aside, my grandfather is on the patent for this and a few other
>
>>> things Gamewell made before and after the depression when they were in
>>> Newton, MA. I have a beautiful one I "kept" in my basement along with a
>>> couple of those McCullough type switches I posted about last summer too in
>
>>> really nice shape.
>>> Of course, nothing official but my Dad has a picture of him and the crew
>>> taken in the shop after another patent was awarded. Funny coincidence. :)
>
>>> TD
>>> Go Red Sox!
>
>>> The old Gamewell excess pressure pumps had a very homemade look about
>> them.
>>> And that sounds like what is being described. Used to be required in
>> Canada
>>> and parts of Europe don't know if they still are..
>
>>> Richard
>
>
>>> Sounds like an excess pressure pump. These were used in areas with a
>>> lot of pressure fluctuations to prevent false alarms. This was before
>>> flow switches with delays. Gamewell was famous for these but
>>> Firematic made a fairly simple version of the same thing. Some towns
>>> (at least in this part of the world) required them
>
>
>
>>> At 11:38 AM 6/27/2009, you wrote:
>>>>I saw something which I do not understand and hope someone can explain
>>>>this to me.
>>>>A 35 year old wet system, manifold with 2 alarm valves. There is a
>>>>electric flow switch on each riser, I think added recently.
>>>>The valves were trimmed with the normal motor gongs, etc.
>>>>The system side gauges are piped together between the two risers, with
>>>>check valves, a mercoid switch labeled pump switch, and another mecoid
>>>>switch labeled alarm switch. On this piping there are 3 check valves
>>>>and a small test cock, presumably for testing.
>>>>There is a small pump with 1/2 in inlet from supply side of valve 2,
>>>>which discharges into the pressure gauge piping described above.
>>>>
>>>>What is the purpose of this? Was it standard at one time?
>>>>
>
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>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Charles Thurston                            mailto:[email protected]
>  Coastal Fire Protection
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