I've done work in this building over the last few years. The last time I was 
there, it was 18ft rack stg of Gp A plastics. Unless they dramatically changed 
product, I can't see anything that would prompt this.



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-----Original Message-----
From: "Rindfuss, Lee T" <[email protected]>

Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:14:03 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: FM ESFR replacement?


Many times an occupancy  or commodity change such as the intro of uncartoned 
expanded plastic or flammable liquids will influence such a recommendation. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FM ESFR replacement?

There is a reason, but without details of the conditions (occupancy, building 
construction, water supply, etc.), it is impossible to pinpoint why FM Global 
made the recommendation.  The installation rules for suppression mode 
sprinklers are very specific, and apparently something changed since their 
acceptance by FM Global three years ago or was missed back then that made these 
sprinklers a bad fit now.  You'll need to look at Data Sheets 2-2 and 8-9 to 
figure it out, or call and ask them.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FM ESFR replacement?

All of the obstruction issues were addressed 3 years ago and FM signed off on 
it. They dropped some significant coin to move bridging and some ductwork. I 
have no idea where this is coming from. The report should be interesting.

At 07:39 AM 7/20/2009, you wrote:
>Could be there are obstruction issues? Easier to change heads than move 
>installed piping in occupied warehouse.
>
>Not everyone seems to understand bridging, HVAC, joist clearances, etc.
>despite the availability of FM's guidelines.
>
>glc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
>Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:16 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: FM ESFR replacement?
>
>I am working with a company that has an ESFR warehouse previously 
>approved by FM. Now, according to them, FM made a recommendation to 
>remove the ESFR heads and replace them with K14 control mode 
>sprinklers. I'm trying to get a copy of the report. Anybody run into 
>this before? Any idea why they would suggest this?
>
Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
www.fpdc.com
860.535.2080
Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
www.fpdc.com
860.535.2080  

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