And this not needing to be a listed item since it's not necessary for
the operation of the sprinkler system and it's not part of a fire
alarm system I could build you one with a PS 40, a 120/24v step-down
transformer for a doorbell, two ice cube DPST relays and three colored
jewel lamps. I did almost the same thing except it was manual and 120v
as a scoring device for a kendo dojo I once belonged to.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, George Church<[email protected]> wrote:
> Another reason to have a peer group if not just a circle of friends....
> When I was with ASCOA, and we were doing Chrysler's "A" Body paint building
> in DE, we had to avoid exposed silicone rubbers. One call to the district
> designer in Detroit office and I knew what changes had to be made in some
> trim packages.
>
> Certainly better to find the answer than re-invent the wheel!
>
> glc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Low Air Pressure Alarm Device - Gov't Project
>
> Mark,
> The government is in a unique position to not limit competition by naming
> specific manufacturers of specialty items,particularly if the desired item
> is
> only made by one manufacturer.They get around this by writing a
> specification
> that can ONLY be satisfied by the desired componant.Sounds like a conspiracy
> theory,but it really isn't.They are just attempting to get what they want
> and
> nothing less(they may have their reasons).
> If possible,try and find a competitor who may have done a similar project
> with
> the same branch of the government(GSA,AEC,etc.).If this fails,try and make
> direct contact with the spec. writer,he may tell you(off the record)where to
> find it.
>
> Lamar Vaughn,SET
> McDonough,Georgia
> ---- Mark Gouveia <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have a government project with a spec calling for a "Low Air Pressure
>> Alarm Device" and want to pick the forum's brain to see if they have run
>> across this before.  They want box with a buzzer and green (all ok), red
>> (low air pressure), and amber (silence switch on) lights connected to a
> low
>> air pressure switch.  See end of email for the exact language.
>>
>> I found a product that is close to the spec, but missing an amber light at
>> http://www.modsafe.com/low%20pressure%20warning.htm .  Priced at $500 not
>> the most economical option either.  Might just have the electrician put
> some
>> parts together.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mark Gouveia
>>
>> 2.7.4 Low Air Pressure Alarm Device
>> Each dry pipe valve trim shall be provided with a local alarm device
>> consisting of a metal enclosure containing an alarm horn or bell, silence
>> switch, green power-on light, red low-air alarm light and amber trouble
>> light. The alarm device shall be activated by the low air pressure switch.
>> Upon reduction of sprinkler system pressure to approximately 10 psig above
>> the dry valve trip point pressure, the low air pressure switch shall
>> actuate the audible alarm device and a red low-air alarm light.
>> Restoration of system pressure shall cause the low-air alarm light to be
>> extinguished and the audible alarm to be silenced. An alarm silence switch
>> shall be provided to silence the audible alarm. An amber trouble light
>> shall be provided which will illuminate upon operation of the silence
>> switch and shall be extinguished upon return to its normal position.
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Ron Greenman
Instructor
Fire Protection Engineering
Bates Technical College
Tacoma, WA

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