I agree but as usual our hands are somewhat tied to a friendly recommendation role. One oven is a box about the size of a paint booth for cars that bakes aluminum to aluminum with a thin film of adhesive between them at 350 degrees.
2nd one is a 2 head room that does the same. 3rd one is an autoclave - vessel that the owner adamantly refuse to put sprinklers in. The other two are up for debate and we are just beginning this process, so thanks for the input. Greg McGahan Operations Manager Living Water Fire Protection 1160 McKenzie Road P.O. Box 877 Cantonment, Florida 32533 (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: walk in Ovens There's a lot more info needed to make a final determination. Of the aluminum plants I've done, the ovens and presses were protected by local application, low pressure, CO2 systems with both automatic and manual activation. Fires in rolling mills were not uncommon due to the coolants used and the process. The "Pe" needs to do some homework and justify his position or hire someone who knows something about these kinds of hazards. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: walk in Ovens The product is aluminum. Greg McGahan Operations Manager Living Water Fire Protection 1160 McKenzie Road P.O. Box 877 Cantonment, Florida 32533 (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Fitz Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: walk in Ovens Try NFPA 86, section on Fire Protection. Occupancy is not a consideration but if the product will burn and extend outside the furnace. Michael -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Reinhardt Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:27 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: walk in Ovens Occupancy should not be a factor. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: walk in Ovens What about industrial ovens? The Engineer is saying that is they are not occupied then he doesn't think sprinklers are warranted. Greg McGahan Operations Manager Living Water Fire Protection 1160 McKenzie Road P.O. Box 877 Cantonment, Florida 32533 (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Walk in humidifier for bread company Sounds like you've nailed it- the parallel to a walk-in box is valid, and protection is required regardless of temperature. glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Reinhardt Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:55 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Walk in humidifier for bread company Question for the forum. Found a business with a walk in humidifier. No different than a walk in cooler or freezer. 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