I would pull the UL listing for the 78 and read it, if it says what the
catalog says your AOK. Any hanger or attachment listed for fire sprinkler
systems is assumed to meet all of the NFPA requirements for load. That is
why the minimum desk thickness is 18ga.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Cyr
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 1" Armover and 250 lbs.

Hi Thom,I am using the Tolco 78 and its listing allows this application. Do
you think this application gets around the NFPA '99,  6-2.1.3 attachment to
the vertical part of the decking?
A pull test was done and it made it to 300 lbs I think the issue preventing
me from using this is the limitation by the SEOR  to 50 lbs max on any
attachment to the decking.
The 250 lb factor is the killer here.

Thanks,
Ed

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Thom McMahon
<[email protected]>wrote:

> TOLCO fig 78 is UL listed for metal deck installation using 1/4 x 1" 
> TEK screws into 18ga. Metal deck. This would include your 250# plus 
> pipe and water.
>
> Thom McMahon, SET
> Firetech, Inc.
> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
> P.O. Box 882136
> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
> Tel:  970-879-7952
> Fax: 970-879-7926
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Cyr
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:00 PM
> To: American Fire Sprinkler Association
> Subject: 1" Armover and 250 lbs.
>
> Members of the Forum,
>
> Will supporting a 1” armover from a metal deck using a ceiling flange 
> with 1½” tek screws require that the 250 lb load factor be part of the 
> total load for that hanger?
>
> Does hanging from the horizontal vs. the vertical make a difference if 
> the support can handle the weight, 30 lb point load? The structural 
> EOR is fine with it.
>
> I am in need of a NFPA interpretation for the OSHPD (Office of 
> Statewide Health Planning and Development  -California) representative.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Cyr
>
> Alpha Fire Sprinkler Corp.
> San Luis Obispo, CA
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