Or just qualify your proposal that storage can't exceed 12' and go OH 2 with
EC heads in that 40' tall box.....

In April 2010 FM Global is going to slim down the selection of heads to:
Storage
Non-storage
Residential
Special
They won't be differentiating between suppression and control modes, and
several other quantum changes in an effort to simplify design criteria.

And I'm sure cutting down to 50 pages of rules instead of 500 will simplify,
just seems odd to mix ESFR and CMSA since we're used to using esfr to limit
duration of supply especially when there's a tank, avoiding auto HS vents,
etc.  Sounded like if we use K25 CMSA storage head we design same # and EHP
as if ESFR.

The uber conservatives turning us on our ear again!

Glc

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Calcs-How much margin

Storage is commodity specific.  Depending on the commodity you might be
directed to use OH2 or EH1.  Depending on what's being stored NFPA 13 might
not even be the applicable Standard.  Storage requires some research and a
lot of questions.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Calcs-How much margin

So are you saying storage is not OH? (I know not all storage is necessarily
OH) 

Are we creating a new category? LH, OHI, OHII, EXI EHII and Storage? 

Not that I think that's a bad idea.


Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland
Huggins
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Calcs-How much margin

that's a restriction that applies only to STORAGE

Roland

On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Thom McMahon wrote:

> NFPA 13 has other restrictions on orifice size in OH occupancies, and 
> even 5.6K heads that are listed for OH cannot be used for design 
> densities over 0.30 GPM/SF (From memory, could be wrong #)

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