Ben,

I have been doing jobs for over a year now that have been mandatory 3D with
model coordination.  You export to a .dwg file that will import into Navis.
The same is true with Revit which is the newest "craze".  I think AutoDesk
believes Revit will replace ACAD before very long.  You can also, as Carrol
mentioned, run interference checking for a "clash report".  Very slick. 

AutoSPRINK works better with a Revit drawing than Revit does from what I
have heard from my clients that use Revit.  If you want to contact me
off-forum I would be happy to discuss the program in more detail. 

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.



[email protected]
www.fire-design.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mep Cadd

What's the file format for AutoSPRINK?  For instance, if you needed to do
coordination in Navis, what would the output process be?

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Carrol Glimstad
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I use AutoSPRINK and cannot imagine using anything else.  Easy to use,
easy
> to learn and builds your systems intelligently so that calcs and listing
> functions are fast and accurate.  Even has it's own built in feature for
> interference checking if you have other 3D elements in your drawing that
> you'd like to coordinate with.  I really can't say enough good things
about
> the program.  If for some reason it came from upstairs that I had to
switch
> to a different software, I think I'd choose to pick up my marbles and go
> elsewhere.   After driving a Ferrari, anything else would seem like a
Yugo.
> (Remember those?)
>
> Carrol A. Glimstad
> Fire Sprinkler Systems Designer
>
> Cosco Fire Protection, Inc.
> 500 Menlo Drive, Suite 150
> Rocklin, CA 95765
> Ph:  916.652.1306
> Fax: 916.652.1307
> Email: [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> Call me Rod, Love the program.
>
> Greg McGahan
> Operations Manager
>
> Living Water Fire Protection
> 1160 McKenzie Road
> P.O. Box 877
> Cantonment, Florida 32533
> (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> Thanks for the input Bobby. Any cons that you would share?
>
> Rod DiBona
> Rapid Fire
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 5:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> We use it here as well. We also give it a big thumbs up.
>
> Bobby Gillett
> Sr. Project Manager
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
> (731) 267-4853 cell
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:45 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> Thank you Craig. This reminds me how important a small discrepancy in
> terminology or misunderstanding of terminology can make a very big
> difference. Similar to a legislator that introduced a bill in the SD
> Congress to prevent local jurisdictions from adopting residential
sprinkler
> portions of the code. Right after his ridiculous statements on the news
> about not wanting any builders to lose any jobs because of mandating
> sprinklers the news cuts away to a lawn sprinkler watering a lawn. I about
> fell off my couch laughing. Yes it is Autosprink VR that we are
considering.
>
> Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> There is an Autodesk product called MEP CADD.  We use it for general
> piping, electrical, hvac.  It's a piece of junk for fire protection if
> you're doing detailed design.  For 3D building design, it's adequate, some
> love it, but
> it has hardly nothing for fire protection in its library.    Then you
still
> have to do calcs as a separate effort.  No nice and tidy CALC button on
the
> menu.
>
> Autosprink, the concensus says big thumbs up.
>
> Craig Prahl
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected]
> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona [
> [email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Mep Cadd
>
> Yes. Sorry to be sloppy on terminology. Autosprink by MEPCAD. Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mep Cadd
>
> I think he's talking about AutoSPRINK VR by MEPCAD
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Lindner, Richard
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > Are you talking about the Autocad MEP program to do fire protection
> > design??
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard K. Lindner
> > Plumbing Senior Designer
> > Morris, Johnson & Associates, Inc.
> >
> > 611 Industrial Way West
> > Eatontown, New Jersey 07724
> > P: 732-380-1100 ext. 4186 | F: 732-380-1111
> > mailto:[email protected] http://www.birdsall.com -----Original
> > Message-----
> >
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod
> > DiBona
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:52 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Mep Cadd
> >
> > We are looking into buying the MEP Cadd program and estimating tools.
> > We have always used sprink cadd and have done very well  with that
> > over the years. The MEP Cadd system seems considerably better but is
> > much  more expensive. I am  wondering if many of you have had to do
> > the same cost/ benefit analysis and if you would be willing to share
> > your thoughts? Off forum replies are welcome if you so desire.
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Thank you for
> > your help!
> >
> > [cid:[email protected]]<http://www.rapidfireinc.com/>
> >                     Rod DiBona
> >                     Vice President
> >                    605-348-2342 office
> >                    605-348-0108 fax
> >                    605-391-3553 cell
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