What about a designer that is a drinker with a running problem? Do they still make a good wage if they show up to work barely able to walk after a race?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Greg McGahan" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, May 24, 2010 12:36 pm Subject: Salary To: <[email protected]> I agree with you Cliff but please remember. There are a lot of inadequate companies and designers charging more than they deserve. We have paid designers (none on the forum) to do work for us that we had to completely redo because they didn't use common sense. We have seen designers with 20 yrs experience design large Mech rooms with Light Hazard only EC heads @ 18x18 and Labs with EH criteria designed with the same heads! We have see designers with 40 yrs experience make the very basic of mistakes over and over again, calcs, no pressure loss for backflows, no decrease of head spacing in combustible attics over 4/12 etc., improper head layout, etc etc. We have had a designer from on e of the largest sprinkler companies in the US design a standpipe with 50 psi at the top of each one since 50 +50 equals 100 psi, and therefore we met the requirement! I am not a socialist and I stand on the premise that a designer is worth what he/she is worth based on his/her own merit and performance. If he has 10 yrs expereince and designs circles around the 25 yr man, then the 10 yr guys is worth circles more than the 25 yr guy. The proof is in the pudding as they say. There are GREAT designers on this forum that we rely on when we can't handle it in house. Thanks TM and BG for the help! On 5/23/2010 8:59 AM, George Church wrote: > For someone who shows up fit for work or for someone who shows up drunk? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom poisal > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM > To: sprinklerforum > Subject: Salary > > The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for > designers without formal training and nicet certification, vs those with, > college degree's, and it seems that according to my Linkin frens plus > contractors, most companies want to recruit a CET, proficient in some sort > of CAD program be it; AutoSPRINK or SprinkCad, and pay bottom dollar for > this person and want a capable design project manager, field survey person, > design technician, etc. all for under 50K a year. What is the "going" rate ? > > On an aside I was just told by a major designer (free lance) that they do > NOT site survey for ease of installation, it is coordinated via AutoCad. Go > figure! > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
