BIM is the most overused acronym in the design field at this moment,
IMHO.   Building Information Modeling, in full working theory, requires
that there be engineering attributes to the objects shown.  BIM is not
NavisWorks - Navis is a 3D emulation viewer that projects 2D AutoCad and
other drawing files as 3D to allow clash detection and a rotatable image
of the input files.   My experience with it has been mixed; we often
find that Navis-detected clashes don't exist, but that Navis misses
clashes that are found the hard way in the field.    Revit offers a full
parametric 3D environment, but there's no content out there except for
empty skins, that show images of objects such as valves and fittings,
but which still don't contain true BIM content.   In theory, BIM
software such as Revit should give us a platform in which we can calc'
the system, list the materials, coordinate our piping with work of all
other trades, maintain an archive of part numbers for service and
repair, etc., etc.   But that depth of content is likely years away so
for now, BIM is just a short-hand way of saying "Clash detection
effected by 3D software that may or may not result in accurate
coordination by trades since it's the epitome of the GIGO model."

As for what value that may or may not add to the designer's job
description I don't know, but to the designer who says that they don't
field survey to check their work I say that we used to overlay our
vellums with the sheet metal drawings on a light table or against a
large sunny window.  We'd mark everything up in pencil as required and
then go back to the office and revise appropriately.   It took less
time, involved direct communication between stakeholders, didn't require
a $9,000 software package that runs on a $4,000 computer, nor the
involvement of a $175 per hour "consultant" to misread the results of
the computer model.   Unfortunately for my firm, 90% of our work is for
architectural clients who are romanced by BIM, so we're stuck in the
vortex.   Terri likes to sing what we call the BIM Song - close your
eyes and listen for the melody of Monty Python's famous SPAM to come
into your head ...   BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM, wonderful
BIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




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Sabolik
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>
>Real BIM modeling goes WAAAAAY beyond just a 3D rendition of a
building.


Please elaborate on this. I think that I know what you're talking about.
How would a Detail Level 5 effect a sprinkler plan?



Vince Sabolik
Christi Fire Protection, Inc.
11351 Pearl Road
Strongsville, Ohio 44136

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