Outdoor storage in shed type structures is common on industrial sites. There are specific rules to be followed. Wind is not an issue nor consideration from a Code standpoint. Ventilation IS an issue so walls are limited.
Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds And since the building has no walls, how is wind going to factor in? At 02:30 PM 7/12/2010, you wrote: >And then there's that ever elusive, non-conforming to anything, type >of storage container that so often pops up. Chemical storage is one >of the most aggravating things I have to deal with. Everyone >expects cookie-cutter answers. Yeah, I wish. Then there's the >chase your tail in a circle Code search for containment that can >confuse the daylights out of people. > >Craig L. Prahl, CET >Fire Protection Specialist >Mechanical Department >CH2MHILL >Lockwood Greene >1500 International Drive >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >Direct - 864.599.4102 >Fax - 864.599.8439 >[email protected] >http://www.ch2m.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:30 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >and just when you think you've tracked down all the questions, you open up >NFPA 30 and then the phone, "relieving or non-relieving?" > >NFPA 30 has been given to us to add back the fun we used to have with 231C, >which many of us don't get to experience as much with the popularity of >ESFRs. >I loved asking aisle widths for a spec whse, knowing the answer. > >glc > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:09 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >There are a lot of variables that need to be known before answering a >question like that. > >Depending on what building or fire code applies the answers can vary, also >the location of the shed with respect to exposure of other buildings or >public ways can factor in and in a lot of cases with a Class III >combustible, there may not be any need whatsoever for any kind of fixed fire >protection. There needs to be some code research performed and you need to >know what the material is. You can spray all the water you want on certain >types of combustible liquids and accomplish nothing, you may need foam or >foam-water. > >Too many unknowns here. > >Craig L. Prahl, CET >Fire Protection Specialist >Mechanical Department >CH2MHILL >Lockwood Greene >1500 International Drive >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >Direct - 864.599.4102 >Fax - 864.599.8439 >[email protected] >http://www.ch2m.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sam b >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:56 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >Hii.. > >Need some help > >Storage:in drums >Flammaeble liquid: Class III >Rack storage up to max 5 m. >Open shed storage with no walls (max height of shed is 7 m at eave) . > > >Can i know what sort of protection I need to provide(Sprinkler system?). I >checked NFPA 30 .but couldnt find the exact thing. > >I think chapter 15,NFPA2008 edition suits the scenario. But what sort of >protection and design density to consider. > >Can anyone give me a quick answer.? > >Thaanks in advance > >Regards >Sam >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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