Todd, if a drum goes up, there'd have to be a heckuva wind to not have the sprinklers activate- even by radiant heat.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds And since the building has no walls, how is wind going to factor in? At 02:30 PM 7/12/2010, you wrote: >And then there's that ever elusive, non-conforming to anything, type of >storage container that so often pops up. Chemical storage is one of >the most aggravating things I have to deal with. Everyone expects >cookie-cutter answers. Yeah, I wish. Then there's the chase your tail >in a circle Code search for containment that can confuse the daylights >out of people. > >Craig L. Prahl, CET >Fire Protection Specialist >Mechanical Department >CH2MHILL >Lockwood Greene >1500 International Drive >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >Direct - 864.599.4102 >Fax - 864.599.8439 >[email protected] >http://www.ch2m.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George >Church >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:30 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >and just when you think you've tracked down all the questions, you open >up NFPA 30 and then the phone, "relieving or non-relieving?" > >NFPA 30 has been given to us to add back the fun we used to have with >231C, which many of us don't get to experience as much with the >popularity of ESFRs. >I loved asking aisle widths for a spec whse, knowing the answer. > >glc > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:09 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >There are a lot of variables that need to be known before answering a >question like that. > >Depending on what building or fire code applies the answers can vary, >also the location of the shed with respect to exposure of other >buildings or public ways can factor in and in a lot of cases with a >Class III combustible, there may not be any need whatsoever for any >kind of fixed fire protection. There needs to be some code research >performed and you need to know what the material is. You can spray all >the water you want on certain types of combustible liquids and >accomplish nothing, you may need foam or foam-water. > >Too many unknowns here. > >Craig L. Prahl, CET >Fire Protection Specialist >Mechanical Department >CH2MHILL >Lockwood Greene >1500 International Drive >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >Direct - 864.599.4102 >Fax - 864.599.8439 >[email protected] >http://www.ch2m.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sam b >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:56 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Flammable Liquid storage in open sheds > >Hii.. > >Need some help > >Storage:in drums >Flammaeble liquid: Class III >Rack storage up to max 5 m. >Open shed storage with no walls (max height of shed is 7 m at eave) . > > >Can i know what sort of protection I need to provide(Sprinkler >system?). I checked NFPA 30 .but couldnt find the exact thing. > >I think chapter 15,NFPA2008 edition suits the scenario. But what sort >of protection and design density to consider. > >Can anyone give me a quick answer.? > >Thaanks in advance > >Regards >Sam >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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