George hit the nail on the head. Specifically 12 X 12 ( 24 X 48 Panel) false ceiling panels with or without the symmetrical holes in them manufactured by Celotex that are classified as "ACM" (A....... Containing Material).
Heres the link to the settlement document; http://www.celotextrust.com/files/04%20amended%20CELOTEX%20ADR%20PROCEDURES% 20(TAC%20approved).pdf Remember if you disturb it you bought it. A word to the wise have it abated. John Drucker, CET Fire Protection Subcode Official Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector Fire Marshals Office Borough of Red Bank, NJ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: stapled ceiling tile If your guys are screwing sammies thru it and its got the "A-Stuff" in it, you may not have it in your contract but you'll have it in your liabilities! You should write a letter questioning whether it has "A" in it to the owner and request verification it is A-Free. There's a fellow Forumite whose tale of his early industry woes with inherited A problems wiped out a company and, before it was over, my ears were bleeding and I had a whole new level of appreciation of the frustrations (and expense) of dealing with A-Claims in court. You don't want to go down that path. Enough to make you want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. Might not be in your contract, but you can't turn a blind eye to what could affect your workers. Just the existence of it in the building with them may be enough for you to inherit it. Get a pre-nup. glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: stapled ceiling tile not in my contract.... On 8/16/2010 10:42 AM, Thom wrote: > If this is a public building, and not a private residence, they are > required to be tested for asbestos, and either removed or encapsulated. > > T. McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg > McGahan > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: stapled ceiling tile > > We are installing uprights to be safe. > > On 8/16/2010 9:58 AM, George Church wrote: > >> I believe there's an FPE with just this type of "test center" >> experience available for contract work. >> You'll just need to send some samples to the Twin Cities Burn Center >> and Thermodynamic Test Kitchen . >> He'll take it from there. >> >> Glc >> Not intended as a commercial plug for Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg >> > McGahan > >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:08 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: stapled ceiling tile >> >> Wow, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. The ones I am dealing with are above an ACT >> > ceiling > >> and undisturbed as of yet. I guess we need more research in order to >> determine what they are made of. >> Thanks, >> Greg >> >> On 8/16/2010 9:05 AM, Ford, Charles wrote: >> >> >>> Greg, I had Armstrong 1'x1' interlocking, stapled acoustic tiles in >>> my >>> >>> >> partially finished basement >> >> >>> when I moved in ( long time ago). I took some and burned them in the >>> >>> >> fireplace. I was so appalled >> >> >>> by the inferno, I immediately tore down all the remaining tiles. >>> (about 1500 sq ft). In the short term, I much preferred the >>> unfinished >>> >>> >> ceiling to the huge hazard I thought the tiles represented. >> >> >>> C. Burton Ford >>> C. Burton Ford >>> Designer- NICET Certified: Fire Alarm, Special Hazards, Sprinkler >>> Design&Sprinkler Inspections NFPA CFPS Cintas Fire Protection-D-47 >>> Warminster, PA 18974 Phone 267-487-1000 Fax 267-487-1010 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg >>> McGahan >>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:50 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: stapled ceiling tile >>> >>> Does anyone know if the old stapled up interlocking ceiling tiles >>> are combustible? >>> >>> I am sure there are multiple types of these ceilings but I am >>> looking for a generic answer. >>> Thanks, >>> Greg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe, send an email >>> to:[email protected] >>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>> This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be >>> >>> >> confidential and privileged. 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