That was funny. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree. This was a "what do I do?" call from a client this afternoon. He > was going to try to meet with the AHJ, but he was the one who had written it > up as being obstructed. Someone at the Convention asked me where I find > these people. Directly or indirectly, they find me. > > > At 05:39 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote: >> >> It's kind of ridiculous that you have to even have a discussion about >> this. What's the AHJ want you to do? >> >> Craig L. Prahl, CET >> Fire Protection Specialist >> Mechanical Department >> CH2MHILL >> Lockwood Greene >> 1500 International Drive >> Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >> Direct - 864.599.4102 >> Fax - 864.599.8439 >> [email protected] >> http://www.ch2m.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams >> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction >> >> The 16x16 duct runs vertically off the top of the unit. there is no >> bottom of duct >> >> >> >> At 05:11 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote: >> >Blow up the HVAC unit?, just ;) >> > >> >Locate the head with deflector at bottom of the 16" deep obstruction. >> > Show >> >the section where head can be located up to 22" for obstructed >> > construction. >> > >> >Tony >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: [email protected] >> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd >> > Williams >> >Sent: November 1, 2010 3:01 PM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction >> > >> >Existing condition. Not going to happen >> > >> > >> >At 04:43 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote: >> > >It may be hard for him to shove the HVAC unit against the wall. With >> > >the minimal space allowed in this closet he still needs room to make >> > >duct connections, electrical connections, drain connections etc. But >> > >hey you could ask. >> > > >> > >Craig L. Prahl, CET >> > >Fire Protection Specialist >> > >Mechanical Department >> > >CH2MHILL >> > >Lockwood Greene >> > >1500 International Drive >> > >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >> > >Direct - 864.599.4102 >> > >Fax - 864.599.8439 >> > >[email protected] >> > >http://www.ch2m.com >> > > >> > > >> > >-----Original Message----- >> > >From: [email protected] >> > >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> > >[email protected] >> > >Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:25 PM >> > >To: [email protected] >> > >Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction >> > > >> > >Todd, >> > >This is just a thought.Get the HVAC contractor to shift the unit into >> > >the corner,then place the sprinkler in the opposite,leaving 8" clear on >> > >2 sides.You can maintain the 4" min. off the wall and cover ALL the >> > >clear space in the room.Right? >> > > >> > >Lamar Vaughn >> > > >> > > >> > >On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Todd Williams wrote: >> > > >> > > > This is under the 2002 code and they have the 5 ft ceiling height >> > > > restriction. I believe this is an 8 ft ceiling. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > At 02:28 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote: >> > > >> Todd, >> > > >> >> > > >> If this is residential, 6.8.1.5.3.1 specifically addresses this >> > > >> concern. >> > > >> 2007 ed. >> > > >> >> > > >> Cliff >> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > >> From: [email protected] >> > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd >> > > >> Williams >> > > >> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:22 PM >> > > >> To: [email protected] >> > > >> Subject: Mechanical closet obstruction >> > > >> >> > > >> I know this was referenced in another post, but I can't find it so >> > > >> I'm starting a new thread. >> > > >> >> > > >> A 2' x 2' mechanical closet. The unit is mounted on the floor and a >> > > >> 16" x 16" plenum comes off the top and runs up through the ceiling >> > > >> at roughly the center of the room (approximately 4" clearance on >> > > >> each side). One sidewall sprinkler is installed near the ceiling >> > > >> and the AHJ questions the head being obstructed. Outside of >> > > >> installing 4 sprinklers in the closet, any good way to address >> > > >> this? The State Building Code specifically excludes the application >> > > >> of >> >common sense. >> > > >> Thoughts? >> > > >> >> > > >> Todd G. Williams, PE >> > > >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting >> > > >> Stonington, CT >> > > >> 860.535.2080 >> > > >> www.fpdc.com >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > > >> [email protected] >> > > >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > > >> >> > > >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >> > > >> [email protected] >> > > >> >> > > >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > > >> to:[email protected] >> > > >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > > >> [email protected] >> > > >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > > >> >> > > >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >> > > >> [email protected] >> > > >> >> > > >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > > >> to:[email protected] >> > > >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > > >> > > > Todd G. 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