That was funny.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree. This was a "what do I do?" call from a client this afternoon. He
> was going to try to meet with the AHJ, but he was the one who had written it
> up as being obstructed. Someone at the Convention asked me where I find
> these people. Directly or indirectly, they find me.
>
>
> At 05:39 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> It's kind of ridiculous that you have to even have a discussion about
>> this.  What's the AHJ want you to do?
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection Specialist
>> Mechanical Department
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
>> Direct - 864.599.4102
>> Fax - 864.599.8439
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.ch2m.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:27 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
>>
>> The 16x16 duct runs vertically off the top of the unit. there is no
>> bottom of duct
>>
>>
>>
>> At 05:11 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
>> >Blow up the HVAC unit?, just ;)
>> >
>> >Locate the head with deflector at bottom of the 16" deep obstruction.
>> > Show
>> >the section where head can be located up to 22" for obstructed
>> > construction.
>> >
>> >Tony
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [email protected]
>> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
>> > Williams
>> >Sent: November 1, 2010 3:01 PM
>> >To: [email protected]
>> >Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
>> >
>> >Existing condition. Not going to happen
>> >
>> >
>> >At 04:43 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
>> > >It may be hard for him to shove the HVAC unit against the wall. With
>> > >the minimal space allowed in this closet he still needs room to make
>> > >duct connections, electrical connections, drain connections etc.  But
>> > >hey you could ask.
>> > >
>> > >Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> > >Fire Protection Specialist
>> > >Mechanical Department
>> > >CH2MHILL
>> > >Lockwood Greene
>> > >1500 International Drive
>> > >Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
>> > >Direct - 864.599.4102
>> > >Fax - 864.599.8439
>> > >[email protected]
>> > >http://www.ch2m.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: [email protected]
>> > >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> > >[email protected]
>> > >Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:25 PM
>> > >To: [email protected]
>> > >Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
>> > >
>> > >Todd,
>> > >This is just a thought.Get the HVAC contractor to shift the unit into
>> > >the corner,then place the sprinkler in the opposite,leaving 8" clear on
>> > >2 sides.You can maintain the 4" min. off the wall and cover ALL the
>> > >clear space in the room.Right?
>> > >
>> > >Lamar Vaughn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Todd Williams wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > This is under the 2002 code and they have the 5 ft ceiling height
>> > > > restriction. I believe this is an 8 ft ceiling.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > At 02:28 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
>> > > >> Todd,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If this is residential, 6.8.1.5.3.1 specifically addresses this
>> > > >> concern.
>> > > >> 2007 ed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cliff
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: [email protected]
>> > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
>> > > >> Williams
>> > > >> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:22 PM
>> > > >> To: [email protected]
>> > > >> Subject: Mechanical closet obstruction
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I know this was referenced in another post, but I can't find it so
>> > > >> I'm starting a new thread.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> A 2' x 2' mechanical closet. The unit is mounted on the floor and a
>> > > >> 16" x 16" plenum comes off the top and runs up through the ceiling
>> > > >> at roughly the center of the room (approximately 4" clearance on
>> > > >> each side). One sidewall sprinkler is installed near the ceiling
>> > > >> and the AHJ questions the head being obstructed. Outside of
>> > > >> installing 4 sprinklers in the closet, any good way to address
>> > > >> this? The State Building Code specifically excludes the application
>> > > >> of
>> >common sense.
>> > > >> Thoughts?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Todd G. Williams, PE
>> > > >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>> > > >> Stonington, CT
>> > > >> 860.535.2080
>> > > >> www.fpdc.com
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