So ask this AHJ where he would like you to place this non-code compliant
sprinkler in this space.I still think your best bet is to place it in
the corner,that way you cover the most floor space (1/2 of
2.222----REALLY???)and get enough water bouncing around this spce till
it finds the fire. :)
And BTW,be sure to keep the head a minimum of 4" off the wall ..... oh
yea,you only HAVE 4".
Lamar Vaughn
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Williams wrote:
I agree. This was a "what do I do?" call from a client this afternoon.
He was going to try to meet with the AHJ, but he was the one who had
written it up as being obstructed. Someone at the Convention asked me
where I find these people. Directly or indirectly, they find me.
At 05:39 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
It's kind of ridiculous that you have to even have a discussion about
this. What's the AHJ want you to do?
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
The 16x16 duct runs vertically off the top of the unit. there is no
bottom of duct
At 05:11 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
Blow up the HVAC unit?, just ;)
Locate the head with deflector at bottom of the 16" deep
obstruction. Show
the section where head can be located up to 22" for obstructed
construction.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: November 1, 2010 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
Existing condition. Not going to happen
At 04:43 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
It may be hard for him to shove the HVAC unit against the wall.
With
the minimal space allowed in this closet he still needs room to
make
duct connections, electrical connections, drain connections etc.
But
hey you could ask.
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mechanical closet obstruction
Todd,
This is just a thought.Get the HVAC contractor to shift the unit
into
the corner,then place the sprinkler in the opposite,leaving 8"
clear on
2 sides.You can maintain the 4" min. off the wall and cover ALL the
clear space in the room.Right?
Lamar Vaughn
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Todd Williams wrote:
This is under the 2002 code and they have the 5 ft ceiling height
restriction. I believe this is an 8 ft ceiling.
At 02:28 PM 11/1/2010, you wrote:
Todd,
If this is residential, 6.8.1.5.3.1 specifically addresses this
concern.
2007 ed.
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Todd
Williams
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mechanical closet obstruction
I know this was referenced in another post, but I can't find it
so
I'm starting a new thread.
A 2' x 2' mechanical closet. The unit is mounted on the floor and
a
16" x 16" plenum comes off the top and runs up through the
ceiling
at roughly the center of the room (approximately 4" clearance on
each side). One sidewall sprinkler is installed near the ceiling
and the AHJ questions the head being obstructed. Outside of
installing 4 sprinklers in the closet, any good way to address
this? The State Building Code specifically excludes the
application of
common sense.
Thoughts?
Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com
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