Repair if it is exactly alike. What be be the difference if you did this a little at a time over the course of forty years? Good idea? Not necessarily but if thee is no definition beyond replace is repair, change is new then replace all is repair.
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > So where is the cut-off between repair and new installation? If you replace > all of the existing pipe, fittings, sprinklers and hangers, etc. with exact > new duplicates in an existing 30,000 building, is that a repair? If you > replace some black steel pipe with galvanized, does that now become a new > installation? > > > At 11:32 AM 1/12/2011, you wrote: >> >> NFPA 25 does not require verification for repair work (provided you >> are replacing like with like). Verification of adequacy per >> specification is a different story that may have nothing to do with >> what is required by the standards. Some reasons can be less than >> honorable. >> >> Roland >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Doug Hicks wrote: >> >>> The dry pipe protects the overhang of a walkway, no attic. the >>> original install is about 20 years old. About 6 years ago, 2 more >>> low hazard buildings were built and the dry pipe system was >>> extended. The 2 new buildings are each protected by a separate wet >>> system. All the fire water comes from the original street >>> connection. The extension increased the protected area about 35-40 >>> %. I assume hydraulic Calcs were done by a licensed person. I tried >>> to type that with a straight face. No increase in pipe sizes were >>> done. I do not know what edition of 13 was used for any of the >>> sprinkler work. I doubt that any water supply information is on >>> file anyplace. So if Calcs are needed, I will have to have a >>> qualified person do that for me. My local AHJ allows do whatever I >>> want. So the decision will be up to the client and his engineer. >>> >>> I will print this out, we have a meeting at 9:00 AM. After the >>> meeting I am sure I will have more questions. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > 860.535.2080 > www.fpdc.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: AFSA, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, NFSA, AFAA, ASEE, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
