Richard,

I kind of get the impression you don't think too highly of Super Dope :0)

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Richard Solis <[email protected]> wrote:
> As a field foreman speaking, blue dope/Super dope is very hard to break loose.
> Please note these pipe dopes are expensive. Fab shops only apply dope on the
> threads with a fitting. Many older fitters apply dope only on the fitting side
> using the Rigid 300. I mean Argo plain white dope. Leave blue dope for 
> plumbers,
> and chill water fitters. NEVER use blue dope on branch lines, as they may have
> to be broke loose years later during tenant finish, or add and relocates. Blue
> dope, or Superdope is only acceptable for Glycol antifreeze systems. You don't
> want your field hands using a 36" Rigid steel pipe wrench to breaks loose a 1"
> nipple drop that spins the branch line and makes the heads behind it crooked.
> You can apply regular Argo white dope on threads, heads, plugs, and it will 
> not
> leak at 250 psi. I have done jobs with underground static psi at 250, and had 
> no
> leaks with dope only. BLUE DOPE is never acceptable in sprinkler work. Its for
> the lazy fitter that wants to hand turn his pipe and "eyeball" the fitting so
> his armovers, and drops are crooked. If you can't wrench pipe in tight enough 
> to
> hold 250 psi, get another trade. I've had 0'2" nipples that were tight as 
> ever,
> once I put a 4' armover they were loosy goosy and held 200 psi.
>
> Dope and tape is good, but I always use dope on the outside of threads over 
> tape
> for close nipples, and unions. I also use dope second for shallow threads as 
> it
> allows for superior makeup into the fitting. I have had shallow threads, and 
> ran
> a fitting over the threads on the Ridgid 300, removed the fitting, then I
> installed the pipe with major makeup. I stretched the threads. Its the same 
> when
> you reuse an old 90, you make the 90 in on the Ridgid 300 where there was no
> makeup on the machine, then install the armover, or drop nipple on the old 
> made
> up threads, ensuring 2 or 3 threads show, and accurate precision in cutting 
> the
> sprinkler head in so a eschuteon  will fit with no problem.
>
>
>
>
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