Like Marriott's requirement to use NFPA 13, not 13R? Draft STOPs aren't required, can be curtains of plywood coming down 8" or 1/3 the depth. Take a look at the Tyco catalog data on CC1 and CC2 sprinklers- explains it all nicely.
George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:52 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: CC1/CC2 or COIN sprinklers Do you have the 2009 IBC available? You're installing a 13R system? Would sprinkler protection be necessary in the attic space? If NFPA 13R and no sprinklers in the attic, then 3,000 sq ft draftstopping is needed. This would definitely be the architect's job to show these in my opinion. If no draftstopping is in the job, then your sprinkler scope extends to the attic. If you must use a specially listed head for this purpose and if this head requires 1000 sq ft draftstopping then it seems better to add the 3000 sq ft draftstopping (or two units) and omit the sprinklers. Have I interpreted this correctly, aside from any Marriott special requirements? Bill Brooks William N. Brooks, P.E. Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. 372 Wilett Drive Severna Park, MD 21146-1904 410-544-3620 410-544-3032 FAX 412-400-6528 Cell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CC1/CC2 or COIN sprinklers Looking for some other forum experience here. How have you been dealing with architects and GC's that state the IBC does not require draft stops in an attic, so they are not willing to put them in when the CC heads are req'd and the CC heads require a draft curtain to be installed? On 6/6/2011 9:23 AM, Matt Grise wrote: > I agree. Just looked at that this morning. The handbook elaborates > that testing has found standard sprinks to be ineffective in short flat comb concealed spaces. > > Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP > Sales Engineer > Alliance Fire Protection > 130 w 9th Ave. > North Kansas City, MO 64116 > > *Licensed in KS& MO > > 913.888.0647 ph > 913.888.0618 f > 913.927.0222 cell > www. AFPsprink.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:22 AM > To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: CC1/CC2 or COIN sprinklers > > Yes. See 8.15.1.6 (2007). > > Duane Johnson, PE > Program Manager > Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor) Office of Research > Services National Institutes of Health > 301-496-0487 > > "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Mack, SET [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: CC1/CC2 or COIN sprinklers > > Trying to settle a "discussion" here. When you have a flat concealed > combustible space and<36" of clearance, are the specially listed heads > required? > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
