If you install the recessed sprinklers so the inner ring is flush with the outer ring, you will have a sprinkler that is a recessed sprinkler not installed in a recessed condition. Since it is no longer a recessed sprinkler, the listing for the cages changes to that with non-recessed sprinklers, perhaps then opening up the door to some applicable listings.
What if an owner WANTS deep dish escutcheons to miss surface mtd lights? He can't? George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ParsleyConsulting Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ECOH wire guards George, Would that it were that simple. There is a district here in Southern California which requires recessed quick response sprinklers in all single family garages, and that such sprinklers be provided with sprinkler guards. Steve Leyton and I, along with a few others have used all the considerable histrionics we have at our disposal to ask that this policy be changed, particularly since listed guards for recessed sprinklers are not manufactured. The response from that district was that their concern was not for the listing of the materials, but rather for the accidental impact discharge as a result of "lousy installation by contractors." They initially (2004) required sprinkler guards on concealed sprinklers in garages as well, however that was rescinded when a new fire marshal took over. As of fifteen minutes ago, the policy for recessed sprinkler guards is still in force. PARSLEY CONSULTING Ken Wagoner, SET 760.745.6181 voice 760.745.0537 fax [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>e-mail www.ParsleyConsulting.com <http://www.ParsleyConsulting.com>website On 9/6/2011 9:57 AM, George Church wrote: > Best thing for a contractor to do in this case is NOT to just put on cages > that "work", but to first check with the Mfr for a listed/Approved model; if > none available, RFI Architect and ask for direction since specified item does > not appear to be available. > It would be smart to check with more than one mfr unless Architect has > specified a certain specific mfr. > > Happy Birthday, Jim, it's a really small industry :) but certainly full of > TOP Notch people. Expect surprises all day. > > > George L. Church, Jr., CET > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 > 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: ECOH wire guards > > To all, > > Please review the UL listing for sprinkler head guards, we have seen a few > cases where the sprinkler contractor "bought the farm" because the sprinkler > head guards were specified by the Architect but were not listed for the ECOH > sprinkler heads. If my old brain can remember, I cannot think of any head > guard that is listed for the ECOH sprinkler. I might need to be "educated". > > Have a fire safe day! > > Jim Davidson > > Davidson Associates > Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting > 302-994-9500 Fax:302-234-1781 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Wyatt > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: ECOH wire guards > > > Hi all > > We have used ECOH Viking heads and want to install guards to them The Viking > D1 wire guard data sheet specifically states it is not to be used with this > head > > I wondered if anyone has had experience in using ECOH protection with wire > guards. > > Regards > > Graham Wyatt > > Fire Protection Engineers ltd > Street Address: 57 Leith St, CBD, Dunedin Postal Address: PO Box 5168, Moray > Place, Dunedin > > Ph (03) 4790799 > Fx (03) 4790788 > Email [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
