You may have to seek an interpretation from NFPA.  I personally don't think
the requirements in 20 apply to the underground supply.

Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: fire pump suction piping - flushing
> 
> Under 2-9.1 Suction pipe and fittings
> The suction components shall consist of all pipe, valves, and fittings
> from the pump suction flange to the connection to the public or private
> water service main, storage tank......
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: fire pump suction piping - flushing
> 
> Dewayne,
> 
> I'm going off memory, so you probably should verify this.  I believe
> somewhere in NFPA 20 (the 'scope' section, maybe?), it says NFPA 20
> requirements begin at the suction control valve.  Assuming that's
> correct, any piping upstream of that is not subject to NFPA 20
> requirements.
> Therefore the underground suction pipe need only be flushed per the
> requirements of NFPA 24, not 20.
> 
> Your mileage may vary.
> Ed Kramer
> Littleton, CO
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> 
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:03 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: fire pump suction piping - flushing
> >
> > Sorry,
> > I had the standards flipped in my original email.  I was trying to
> > confirm of I needed to use the flushing rates from NFPA 20 (11-1.2,
> > 99ed)not 24 for the UG supply pipe when a fire pump is involved on a
> > project.
> > I have been running into opposition when trying to get the UG
> > contractor to flush per 20 and just wanted to make sure they needed
> > to.  I have a local consultant who works for many of the AHJ's that is
> requiring this.
> > Dewayne Martinez
> >
> > Design Build Fire Protection
> 
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