No, definitely your basic brass pendent head. totally inaccessible. The only way you can see it is to open the top floor trash chute door and contort your body as far into the chute as you can get. It is about 3-4 feet above that door (which has a head already just inside the door). It is not your standard piping either. It is fed off a 1" galvanized elbow which comes out of some other type of unit that has a brass lever on the bottom. Above this contraption is some type of baffle or metal shield. There is some type of cleaning unit piped into the chute right near where this head is. But this is copper and has some ball valves, which were all shut. I have just never seen anything like it. In a message dated 1/6/2012 2:27:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Is there any possibility that this was a dry sidewall type head? That could probably be replaced without getting inside the shaft. I don't recall what climate this was in. ~Jarron Jarron J. Gass - J. & J. Fire Protection Co., Inc. 101 Powell Rd., Butler, PA 16002, (724) 586-6111, fax (724) 586-5151 emergency (724) 898-2481, [email protected], www.jandjfire.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Trash Chute Question That may be why it actuated - the fact that it is 30 years old. It sat at the top of an unairconditioned chute where all the environmental heat collects. It is subject to vibration day after day from trash banging down the chute. It's old. Fatigue sets in. The fusible link just gave up. John Hoffman P.E. | Fire Protection Engineer | Facility Engineering Services, KCP, LLC - Burns & McDonnell Engineering | National Nuclear Security Administration's Kansas City Plant | Operated by Honeywell FM&T | 2000 E. 95th St | Kansas City, MO 64131 | ph 816-997-7213 | [email protected] |------------> | From: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |[email protected] | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |[email protected] | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |01/06/2012 01:13 PM | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |Re: Trash Chute Question | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Sent by: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| |[email protected] | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------| That has been one of my theories. My only question is what caused the head to go off now. It's been that way for 30 years and they've never had any problems. I'm still confused . In a message dated 1/6/2012 9:12:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Sounds like a "cleanout head", that should've been connected to domestic water supply, was incorrectly connected to the fire system during original construction. The head should be an open head, controlled by a valve at the top of the shaft. It shouldn't set off the pump or fire alarm. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I had a sprinkler head go off at the top of a trash chute today. The head > is in an unreachable position inside the middle the top of the chute. It > is > also being fed off some kind of contraption I have never seen. Some > type of large baffle with a 1" street elbow coming off of it and > something in the middle with a lever. 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