Jamie wrote; "is any one aware of the IBC not allowing the elimination of sprinkler protection in a combustible concealed space where the space is filled with insulation ?"
No. 2009 IBC (Model Code) [F] 903.3.1.1 NFPA 13 sprinkler systems. Where the provisions of this code require that a building or portion thereof be equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with this section, SPRINKLERS SHALL BE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH NFPA 13 EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 903.3.1.1.1. [F] 903.3.1.1.1 Exempt locations. Automatic sprinklers shall not be required in the following rooms or areas where such rooms or areas are protected with an approved automatic fire detection system in accordance with Section 907.2 that will respond to visible or invisible particles of combustion. Sprinklers shall not be omitted from any room merely because it is damp, of fire-resistance-rated construction or contains electrical equipment. 1. Any room where the application of water, or flame and water, constitutes a serious life or fire hazard. 2. Any room or space where sprinklers are considered undesirable because of the nature of the contents, when approved by the fire code official. 3. Generator and transformer rooms separated from the remainder of the building by walls and floor/ceiling or roof/ceiling assemblies having a fire-resistance rating of not less than 2 hours. 4. Rooms or areas that are of noncombustible construction with wholly noncombustible contents. 5. Fire service access elevator machine rooms and machinery spaces. Last but not least always check that a requirement in Chapter 4 Special Occupancies isn't more restrictive. Hope that helps, John Drucker, CET Fire Protection Subcode Official Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector Fire Marshals Office Borough of Red Bank, NJ Not the official position of any agency, association, committee or otherwise. Obtain required applications, permits, inspections and approvals from Authority(s) Having Jurisdiction. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seidl Jamie D. Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:30 AM To: Sprinkler Forum ([email protected]) Subject: IBC Question I had an interesting comment from an architect yesterday on a project I am working on. Wood frame building with 12" open web trusses. Due to the floor/ceiling assembly rating, we won't have the minimum 12" to use concealed space sprinklers due to the batt insulation between the floors. Accounting for the insulation, we have approximately 9" of clear space. When the manufactures were contacted, they confirmed that this would be outside the listing of the concealed space sprinkler. We suggested to the contractor that he fill the truss space with insulation per NFPA 13. The RFI came back answered "The exception in NFPA for filling the concealed space with insulations ins technically not permitted by IBC and is not practically effective." While I haven't begun to make the point that the sprinkler protection/spray pattern wouldn't be "practically effective" in this situation and violate the listings, is any one aware of the IBC not allowing the elimination of sprinkler protection in a combustible concealed space where the space is filled with insulation? Thanks, Jamie Seidl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment s/20120524/362544e1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
