To all: Unless there was a recall on the sprinkler, this would be beyond the expertise of a typical sprinkler system inspector and tester. The scope of 25 is to look at the system as installed and accepted by the AHJ.
This is a slippery slope. Shane M. Clary, Ph.D. Bay Alarm Company Sent from my iPad On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:35 AM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> wrote: > Do not agree. They are, by definition 3.3.4.1, a CRITICAL DEFICIENCY. > This trumps all that other stuff, IMHO. > > SML > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron > Greenman > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates > installed > > Can't do it for that reason Steve. If they were acceptable at > installation then calling them out that way would be beyond the scope of > NFPA 25 and the expertise of the technician. That is unless the tech is > also a PE and is willing to make that call as part of the cost of an > inspection. Of course if you don't point it out in some way and the > place burns any half-assed lawyer can convince any jury that the tech, > and by extension his employer, is incompetent, negligent, and liable. > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Steve Leyton > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yes, because those plates have been shown to slow sprinkler response. >> >> >> Steve Leyton >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gregg >> Key >> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:23 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates >> installed >> >> Forum, if you were inspecting a building and found some pendant >> sprinklers with the "heat collectors" installed, would you write it up > >> as a deficiency and why? >> >> Many moons ago they were accepted but later research proved they did >> not work. >> >> C.Gregg Key, SET >> Key Fire Protection Services,Inc >> Project Manager >> (O) 706-790-3473 >> (C) 706-220-8821 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis > Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attach > ments/20120802/8c4ffd28/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
