Do not agree.  They are, by definition 3.3.4.1, a CRITICAL DEFICIENCY.
This trumps all that other stuff, IMHO.

SML




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates
installed

Can't do it for that reason Steve. If they were acceptable at
installation then calling them out that way would be beyond the scope of
NFPA 25 and the expertise of the technician. That is unless the tech is
also a PE and is willing to make that call as part of the cost of an
inspection. Of course if you don't point it out in some way and the
place burns any half-assed lawyer can convince any jury that the tech,
and by extension his employer, is incompetent, negligent, and liable.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Steve Leyton
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes, because those plates have been shown to slow sprinkler response.
>
>
> Steve Leyton
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gregg 
> Key
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates 
> installed
>
> Forum, if you were inspecting a building and found some pendant 
> sprinklers with the "heat collectors" installed, would you write it up

> as a deficiency and why?
>
> Many moons ago they were accepted but later research proved they did 
> not work.
>
> C.Gregg Key, SET
> Key Fire Protection Services,Inc
> Project Manager
> (O) 706-790-3473
> (C) 706-220-8821
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