Lets think about this. The pump is going to be on springs and will be able to 
move up and down and side to side. When the pump starts, the impeller will 
rotate creating a torque. The torque will push down on some springs and lift up 
on others. Whereas the torque is usually absorbed by the pad, it will now be 
absorbed by the pipe and fittings attached to it (until the springs max out). I 
will be outside with a catcher's mitt to collect the flying debris. 



At 05:05 PM 10/1/2012, you wrote:
>Might be quicker to ask the specifying EOR where this is permited in #20 
>because you can't find it and you, and 600 of your sprinkler friends, have 
>never seen it done. Might be a reason.
>Plus it might
>a-make him think 
>b-make him look at #20
>c-make him figure it out while you do something productive.
>
>
>George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
>Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
>PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
>877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
>g...@rowesprinkler.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org 
>[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:39 PM
>To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
>Subject: RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators
>
>We do a good share of pumps, doesn't sound like a good idea to me either. I 
>would definitely run it by the pump representative and get their thoughts.
>Curious to see who is requiring this and how it shakes out.
>
>Bobby Gillett
>Sr. Project Manager
>Key Fire Protection, Inc.
>(731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
>(731) 267-4853 cell
>www.keyfireprotection.com
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
>[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:31 PM
>To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
>Subject: Re: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators
>
>This does not sound like a good idea to me. After a cursory glance at 20, the 
>Handbook, and a couple of others books I couldn't find anything to back up my 
>gut opinion. I'm curious as to what others think and know.
>
>On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Gregg Key <gr...@keyfps.com> wrote:
>
>> Formites and fire protection friends,
>>
>> Has anyone here ever installed an electric fire pump on these spring 
>> type isolators? We usually install them on a pad, but recently had 
>> someone require us to install on the isolators. Any help would be 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> C.Gregg Key, SET
>> Key Fire Protection Services,Inc
>> Project Manager
>> (O) 706-790-3473
>> (C) 706-220-8821
>>
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