Great points here.

We've tried to maintain the philosophy from Ron and listed below with our 
sprinkler requirements. We do not require sprinklers in garages. The previous 
FM made the hard fight to get the sprinkler ordinance passed. I was "blessed" 
with the implementation when he retired. For those pushing for sprinkler 
legislation, please remember that legislation is only half the battle (maybe 
even less than half).

We tried to stay with NFPA13D - my fall back answer has been "we only require 
what is in the standard". We do highly recommend a flow alarm.

All that said, there have been several sprinkler "saves" in nearby towns where 
the sprinkler in the garage activated and controlled the fire.

Jim K.


James M. Kettler, EFO, CFPS
Director of Building and Codes/Fire Marshal
PO Box 413
4613 Hughesian Drive
Buckingham, PA   18912
215.794.8836 (office)




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron 
Greenman
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Residential Garages, 13R & me.

AHJs tend to try to worry property and firefighter protection into 13D.
Reasonable from their point of view, but the idea behind the standard is 1.
get everyone out and 2. make it cheap enough to b attractive to all the 
naysayers. If the occupants escape and it burns to the ground no problem, met 
the performance spec (everybody got out). If it's too dangerous for 
firefighters to enter and people are inside then it failed. If it's dangerous 
and everyone is out leave it be. Don't get on the roof. Don't ventilate. Don't 
attempt a save. Surround and drown is the proper response.
adding sprinklers too unoccupied spaces like garages won't help with 1 and will 
be detrimental to 2.


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