What Richard said. Steve
Richard Carr <[email protected]> wrote: As long as you call the gate on the BFP your system control valve and underground is rated for 200, you should be fine, see it all the time. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 [email protected] 904-781-8227 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FDC Arrangement I believe you are not understanding my explanation, maybe because my explanation was poorly done - try this: Lets say you have a backflow in a pit or heated enclosure directly after the property line with an FDC on the discharge side of the backflow (system side) and then underground piping to the building feeding a system riser. The fire marshal says you cannot do this because you will be pressurizing the underground supply; you have to come off the interior piping and pipe back out to the free standing FDC; which in turn may be or may not be required to be right next to your pit. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Smith, Steven D. (CSFD) < [email protected]> wrote: > And sometimes "government employees" have to educate less than > knowledgably contractors. ;) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest > Wilson > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: FDC Arrangement > > What is there to document? > He doesn't understand the Standard; > A fine example of a government employee telling a knowledgeable > contractor what to do. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Bobby Gillett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > We have a project that requires a Free Standing FDC. Typically we > > would use the scenario of putting the backflow preventer above > > ground and mounting the FDC on the dishcarge side of the backflow > > before going back underground to supply the system in the building. > > The local fire marshall is wanting the FDC to come off the interior > > system and pipe underground back out to the FDC; he is quoting the > > explanation after 912.1 of the 2012 > > IFC: "These connections give the fire department the capability of > > supplying the necessary water to the automatic sprinkler system at a > > sufficient pressure *without pressurizing the underground supply*." > > I believe this is being misinterpreted - my interpretation is that > > this is referencing *not pressurizing the underground supply* on the > > supply side of the backflow (or a check valve depending on the > > scenario) - not the underground to the system on the discharge side > > of > the backflow. > > > > Has anyone dealt with this scenario yet and is their documentation > > out there straightening this out? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Bobby Gillett > > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > > (850) 937-1850 > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin > > kl > > er.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler .org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.o rg _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
