Yes. 

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On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:25 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> But what if the underground is a loop and has section valves plus the riser 
> valves? The Phoenix Fire Dept. makes us put a FDC on each manifold instead of 
> at the fire pump. The pump supplies the underground loop for the entire 
> building with multiple lead ins. There are sectional gate valves in the loop, 
> there is a gate valve in each underground leadin, and there are gate valves 
> in each riser on a manifold. Phoenix says we can't have any gate valves 
> between the FDC and the "system" gate valves. They read 8.17.2.4.3 and stop 
> there. As far as the PFD is concerned 8.17.2.4.4 doesn't apply.
> 
> What do you guys think? Can there be multiple gate valves between the FDC and 
> sprinkler systems?
> 
> Ron F   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles 
> Thurston
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FDC Arrangement
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I tend to use these for these situations  8.17.2.4.4 is the key to them.
> 
> 8.17.2.4.2   For single systems, the fire department connection shall be 
> installed  as follows:
> 
> (1)  Wet system - on the system side of system control, check, and alarm 
> valves (see Figure A.8.16.1.1)
> (2)  Dry system - between  the  system control valve and  the dry pipe valve
> (3)  Preaction system - between  the preaction valve and the check valve on 
> the system side of the preaction valve
> (4)  Deluge system - on the system side of the deluge  valve
> 
> 8.17.2.4.3   For multiple systems, the fire department connection shall be 
> connected between 
> the supply control valves and the system control valves.
> 
> 8.17.2.4.4* The requirements of 8.17.2.4.2 and 8.17.2.4.3 shall not apply 
> where the fire department connection is connected to the underground piping.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Charles                            mailto:[email protected]
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