Bob is right but the ones I did and design for them had all copper systems and 
came of the domestic supply except one that the AHJ reqired a deluge water 
curtain over the counter for lack of a one hour wall between dinning and 
kitchen.


 
Thanks,
J. Lewis




>________________________________
> From: Bob <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:35 AM
>Subject: RE: BK Design
> 
>
>Good stuff!
>
>Bob Knight, CET III
>208-318-3057
>www.firebyknight.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim
>Davidson
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:34 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: BK Design
>
>Bob,
>
>Back in 1978 BK was trying to sprinkler their stores with a modified
>sprinkler criteria that they developed to minimize the cost of installation
>and not to be installed in accordance with the legal code requirements of
>the AHJ, since BK felt that the sprinkler systems were not a required
>sprinkler system by code. However in today's code environment all systems
>"required" or "not required" need to be installed in accordance with the
>legal code. As you can see the prototype spec does not comply with any part
>of NFPA 13. 
>
>If BK requires you to provide per BK's specs have your lawyer draft a hold
>harmless agreement requiring BK to indemnify you and your firm and design
>personal from any legal action resulting from the installation of the
>sprinkler designed and installed to BK's specifications. 
>
>The professional engineer who produced the specs is long gone and
>probability arguing with George Church and Joe Manning about the
>deficiencies in the engineer's specifications.
>
>Have a fire safe day!
>
>Jim 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:01 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: BK Design
>
>I'm working on a Burger King.  I've never done a BK before, so what I'm
>about to describe seems ridiculous.
>The design criteria is based on a PE proto type from 1978.  This is what the
>contractor was given and told to use as "spec".
>There are combustible concealed spaces above ceilings throughout premises,
>but no sprinkler protection is to be provided.  The design criteria is 6
>sprinklers over 653 sf in the dining area.  To be calc'ed light hazard.
>That's it.  Has anyone out here in forum land provided the system for a BK
>lately?  What was required/done?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob Knight, CET III
>208-318-3057
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