I think the issue is that there has to be a higher ceiling on either side of the "beam" for it to be considered lintel and create compartment separation. However, if one has a coffered ceiling with 10" deep separations, does that make each coffer a compartment?
Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:09 PM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I'm wrestling with that beam in, say, a living room. It's an > obstruction, it's kind of a compartment, it kind of compartmentalizes the > room, but...? So if it's a lintel, defined as a "beam" over a door it > doesn't compartmentalize one section from another if there's no wall to > either side, but it does if there is wall, no matter how short? If there's > a shower door does that count? What about that living room beam with two > feet of wall on either end of a sixteen foot free span, with the architect > calling one side living and the other dining? I think tis can be pretty > shaky stuff for literalists. > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Roland Huggins > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> the same logic would say a beam in the middle of a room make it two >> compartments. If you have a 8" obstruction on two sides of the shower but >> no portion of either span is a wall, then it isn't a lintel. >> >> >> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering >> American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives >> Dallas, TX >> http://www.firesprinkler.org >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 2, 2013, at 11:32 AM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If there is at least eight inches on both sides I'd argue that it >> separates >>> compartments. If not it's something else. Since it defines an overhead >>> separation between compartments it is a portal from one to the other and >>> therefore a doorway. If someone wants to argue otherwise I'm open to >>> persuasion. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, > essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
