How about something like a U. V. International 11" x 4" ductile iron threaded reducing companion flange (DPF0411) with a 0'-4" piece of schedule 40 galvanized pipe thread x cutgroove? Takeout would be about 5". A question though is whether or not there is a meter device on your BFP that may give erroneous readings due to the turbulent flow created upstream of this fitting if located immediately upstream?
Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET Fire Protection Engineering Group Burns & McDonnell Direct: 952-656-3662 Mobile: 320-250-5404 *Registered in: MN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jarron Gass Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Flange x Groove Reducing Adapter I am pretty sure that Vic makes a whole line of AWWA approved products, they use the same number but add a different letter to the end, 50-C is a concentric reducer I think. ~Jarron Jarron J. Gass, P.E. - Vice President - J. & J. Fire Protection Co., Inc. 101 Powell Rd., Butler, PA 16002, (724) 586-6111, fax (724) 586-5151 emergency (724) 898-2481, <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected], <http://www.jandjfire.com/> www.jandjfire.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Flange x Groove Reducing Adapter I've done it for years as well, but the National Plumbing Code prohibits the use of any pipe or fitting that is not AWWA approved upstream of the backflow, and the AHJ is enforcing it. Neither black nor galvanized steel pipe is AWWA approved. We have had to buy cement lined 90° and tee's in the past to comply. Richard L. Mote Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:39 PM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: RE: Flange x Groove Reducing Adapter Use a 6" steel blind flange and have your shop cut a hole and weld a 4" PEx Gr piece of pipe in it to the length you need, this has been done for years. Mike > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:29:15 -0700 > Subject: Re: Flange x Groove Reducing Adapter > From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > > How about a 6"x4" concentric grooved reducer with a 6" split grooved flange? > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Richard Mote < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>wrote: > > > Anyone know if there is a listed Flange x Groove Reducing Adapter on > > the market, I just spent 30 min. searching the web but no joy. I'm > > looking to go from a 6" flange directly to a 4" groove inlet on a > > backflow, space is the driving factor. > > > > Richard L. Mote > > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > > 7994 Route 522, Suite 1 > > PO Box 407 > > Middleburg, PA 17842 > > P 570-837-7647 > > F 570-837-6335 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > > > > > > <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firespri > > n> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin > > kler.org > > > > > > -- > Juan Munguia > Thorpe Design Inc. > P 925.634.5758 > C 209-380-0599 > F 925.634.5975 > E <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > W <http://www.thorpedesign.com> www.thorpedesign.com > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > > <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink > l> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.or g> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.or g> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
