I've done so many of these on residential storage closets on balconies it's not even funny. Mind you this was before the exception for not providing protection in storage closets with no penetrations into the dwelling unit. We had multiple successful activations of them installed in closets and actually suppressing the fire on the non sprinklered balcony. (Again before the IBC required protection of balconies). It's an ugly option, but cost effective, option. When you're trying to eliminate costly furr-downs to conceal drop down pipe for a dry sidewall protecting a closet? Pop that puppy with a plain barrel on a 45.
Jamie Seidl Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:15 PM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> wrote: > > Todd, > > I have all of the eighties at work, but I'm on spring break. maybe I'll > look it up if I remember, and, of course, if I go back. > > >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Todd - Work <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ron, I found it in the 1989 edition under A-4-4.9 >> >> Todd G Williams, PE >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting >> Stonington, CT >> www.fpdc.com >> 860-535-2080 (ofc) >> >>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I presume you guys are talking about that picture with the dry pendants >> poking thru the wall to outside at 45 degrees. I've seen many I Seattle and >> even changed out a couple that worked successfully. I just went thru the >> 1978 standard page by page, only 207 of the little ones, including the >> index, and it's not in there. >>> >>> Ron Greenman >>> ...On the phone >>> >>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Roland Huggins <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> some great answers. Mine was going to be BECAUSE >>>> >>>> It seems like once something makes it into a standard, it takes an act >> of congress to get it out (and sine congress isn't doing much I guess it'll >> never happen). It's never been questioned (that I can remember) in the 18 >> yrs that I've been on the committee. It's mainly there to show it can be >> used in other than the normally acceptable manner. We did the same with >> sidewall sprinklers under the edge of a overhead door. That doesn't answer >> the question why not use a dry side wall? >>>> >>>> I've added it to my list of items for the 2019 cycle. So don't hold >> your breath for a quick answer unless you can accept 'cause. >>>> >>>> Roland >>>> >>>> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering >>>> American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives >>>> Dallas, TX >>>> http://www.firesprinkler.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Anyone out there, committee members or clairvoyants, who can say why >>>>> this illustration shows a dry-pendent sprinkler in what appears to be a >>>>> non-conforming orientation? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> SML >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, > essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > > A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, > inventor and engineer (1876-1958) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
