Sloppy syntax.   

In MANUAL standpipe systems the FDC is the primary water supply ...

 




-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:59 PM
To: Sean Lockyer; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Can a hydrant flow from the pumper connection be used for 
thehydraulic calculations ?

The premise puts cart ahead of horse.  The inlet connection is, by definition, 
a supplemental water supply and not a primary one in fire sprinkler systems.   
Every system is required to have at least one automatic water supply capable of 
meeting the demand in flow and pressure.  In standpipe systems, the FDC is the 
primary water supply and NFPA 14 now requires that manual systems be 
hydraulically calculated from the inlet connection to the most demanding hose 
connections as such.  So ... no, you can't do that per the standard.   

Steve Leyton

 




-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Sean Lockyer
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Can a hydrant flow from the pumper connection be used for thehydraulic 
calculations ?

Here is an interesting question: In the event that you do not have an adequate 
amount of water flow (in terms of GPM) is it acceptable to flow the 4-1/2" 
pumper connection in lieu of the standard 2-1/2" connection on the side ? I 
know that in NFPA 291 it is recommended to only blow off the 2-1/2" outlet but 
when you blow off the pumper connection there is a formula used to reduce it. 
However, even after the formula reduction you still have a far higher amount of 
water (once again, in terms of GPM). My question is this, can you use that GPM 
in your hydraulic calculations ? I would have to think that most AHJ's would be 
hesitant to allow this to be used since you are artificially inflating the 
water supply. 

What does everyone else think ?

              Sean Lockyer
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Court
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Florida 32808
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