Are you asking if you can do a flow test from the pumper connection? If so, then sure you can. You just need to modify the coefficient based on your pitot.

How are you inflating the gpm? If you measure 1200 gpm from the 2½" and you measure 2000 gpm from the 4.5", how is that inflating flow? You should typically have a lower residual pressure when flowing the pumper connection than the 2½" connection.

If you are looking to 291 for direction, are you getting the required 25% drop in static and residual from your 2½" flow? If not, what do you do? You are required to open up additional hydrants to get the flow. So, to get additional flow, you can also flow from the pumper connection.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your question.

Travis Mack, SET
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On 5/13/2014 1:47 PM, Sean Lockyer wrote:
Here is an interesting question: In the event that you do not have an adequate amount of water 
flow (in terms of GPM) is it acceptable to flow the 4-1/2" pumper connection in lieu of 
the standard 2-1/2" connection on the side ? I know that in NFPA 291 it is recommended to 
only blow off the 2-1/2" outlet but when you blow off the pumper connection there is a 
formula used to reduce it. However, even after the formula reduction you still have a far 
higher amount of water (once again, in terms of GPM). My question is this, can you use that 
GPM in your hydraulic calculations ? I would have to think that most AHJ's would be hesitant 
to allow this to be used since you are artificially inflating the water supply.

What does everyone else think ?

               Sean Lockyer
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