Rocci - There is no restriction regarding running lead-in piping under 
footings. The restriction is how far into the building you run the line. The 
concern is the damage created by the failure of a (normally) large diameter 
fire main, as well as the extensive downtime required to repair such a main if 
it were located a large distance from the outside of the building. Generally 
speaking you are to bring the main up as close to the outside wall as practical 
given your circumstances. Exceptions are granted if you rout the pipe in a 
trench in the building floor with a removable cover.

NFA 24 or chapter 10 of NFPA 13 will give you this guidance.

In your situation I'd want to know if you are crossing under the narrow 
dimension of the ADA ramp or if the entire ramp covers the pipe.  In either 
case I don't think you violate NFPA guidance, per se.  But if there's a way to 
avoid having the entire ramp over this main it should be considered. I.e., it's 
more of a best practices issue.


Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer | 
Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9905 | mobile: 701.371.5759 | 
http://www.kfiengineers.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 1:24 PM
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Subject: underground pipe under building footings

Before I go digging through a bunch of books I figured I'd try and save some 
time by asking all you EXPERTS.  Does anyone know which code states underground 
fire service can't run under footings? We have a project where a chemical 
bunker is being built and the ADA accessible ramp up to the bunker is being 
built  directly over an (e) 10" C-900 fire service and our new tap that is 
going to feed the system in the bunker.



Thanks in advance for your responses.



Rocci Cetani III, CET

Lead Designer

Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III



Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc.

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