I can't picture where your control valve is that you're proposing but unless 
something has changed in NFPA 13, there are no control or isolation valves 
allowed on an FDC line.


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ed Kramer
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: (1) FDC or (2) [EXTERNAL]

On a single-system wet system riser, there typically is no control valve 
downstream of the FDC tie-in location.  By adding a control valve downstream of 
the FDC tie-in location, system A can be shut down for repair/maintenance by 
closing system A control valve.  FDC remains fully functional for system B.  
Similar in function to an underground supply/header with multiple systems.  Now 
if either of the FDC pipes that connect the single FDC to the 2 system risers 
gets damaged, all bets are off.

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:02 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: (1) FDC or (2)

How would you shut down potential supply flow from the common FDC to the out of 
service system riser?


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ed Kramer
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:34 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: (1) FDC or (2) [EXTERNAL]

Brian, If FDC supply pipe were run from a single FDC to both system risers, and 
connected to the system risers between the BFP (or other supply check valve) 
and a system control valve, either of the systems could be shut down for 
maintenance/repair without impairing the FDC for the in-service system.  Each 
system riser would need its own FDC check valve.  Doing this might require more 
bulk pipe and a couple more control valves.

Ed Kramer
Bamford Fire


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:31 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: (1) FDC or (2)

I'm working on a storage building that because of the way the building was 
built each "side" has its own Riser with its own FDC connection (picture a big 
horseshoe shape). The architect has requested that a single FDC be located on 
the corner of one of the building sides. Is it feasible to do this and tie the 
systems together via the FDC pipe or does each Riser still require its own FDC 
connection?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Design Manager
bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
Phone: 704.896.9989
Fax: 704.896.1935

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