As this moment, the A/E community is using Revit at about 10-15% of its capabilities. Someday - likely in the not so distant future - Revit models will be used to project the costs of lighting/heating/cooling, anticipated scopes and costs for M&O programming and ITM for systems like sprinklers. We didn't wait for industry to furnish content; we created our own. We now have an extensive library of valves, hanger and brace assemblies, pipe, fittings, etc. But making families of objects is one thing. Giving them the attributes that will do all that cool stuff someday and writing code to process the information to run calc's or create ITM checklists or whatever ... well, those are much more complex tasks. Revit is at the Model T stage right now, but has the potential to be a carbon fiber hybrid super car.
SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:31 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes You misread my post David. I said REVIT has no design tools specifically for fire protection design. I didn't say anything about HydraCad. If all you have is REVIT, it is a pipe routing design tool and that is all. You can stick sprinkler heads on the pipe and you can depict grooved pipe or threaded pipe. But calculations must be completed outside of REVIT. It is not a fire protection layout or calculation tool. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2M 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville, SC 29607 Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 CH2MHILL Extension 77540 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David M. Canham Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:19 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL] I would disagree with that as I use HydraCAD for Revit every day. Drawing and head layout tools, hydraulic calculations and complete stock listing. They also offer an 8 week class through on line with homework and everything. It is a live on line class so you can ask questions and see stuff over as well as a video of it to review later. I have used other software for years and really had to struggle to keep an open mind but the class is very well done and even an old dog like me is getting the hang of it. Many things that should be simple in Revit seem over complicated such as picking a few pipes and trying to make just those one a different color, but there is also so much potential. The internal collision is good as well as a slick HyraCAD for Revit tool that allows you to import the entire hit report from a Navisworks file and it makes hit tags in your Revit file that show up in your views. Switchback also works well but that is a generic Revit tool that you do not need HydraCad to use. JUST TO BE CLEAR I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HYDRATECH OR AN INDORSING ANYTHING. JUST RESPONDING TO THE POST WITH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE David M. Canham Fire Systems Solutions 15 Sayles Avenue Lincoln, RI 02865 PH 401-725-1089 Fax 401-725-1583 Cell 508-277-3473 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:44 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes There is no "fire protection design" for REVIT. We use it to do layouts but you are manually piping the system and locating sprinklers. Nothing is automated, you still have to manually input data into your calc program. It's a little bit clumsy to use, you have limited components with which to build your systems, vendor provided families of some devices will kill your model because they are overly detailed and create huge file sizes that no one will reference. They've told us they were working on an interface with other sprinkler packages so we could model in REVIT to maintain compatibility and visibility with the other disciplines and then there would be an interface with for example, HydraCalc, but it's not happened yet. We've been using it to do detailed FP layouts for about five years now. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2M 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville, SC 29607 Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 CH2MHILL Extension 77540 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay White Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:29 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL] Has anyone taken CAD Revit/BIM Classes for fire protection design? If so, who was it taught by and were the classes online or in a classroom environment? Jay White Sales/Design Manager Dynamic Fire Protection 9771 Highway 25 South Starkville, MS 39759 PH: 662-312-2426 FAX: 662-324-1545
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