Thanks but I'll stick with the Hydratech for Revit. Bought AutoSprink a few 
years back and found it to be terrible and then they reneged on returning my 
money if after a year I did not like it. 

David M. Canham
Fire Systems Solutions
15 Sayles Avenue
Lincoln, RI 02865
Office 401-725-1089
Fax 401-725-1583
Cell 508-277-FIRE (3473)

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Nicky Marshall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You should try AutoSprink RVT – a Revit add on, that most importantly, lets 
> you calculate in Revit!
> Not quite the carbon fibre hybrid super car, but this takes a lot of the pain 
> out of Revit and adds some great features that AutoSprink has.  (Still a lot 
> of pain because it is still Revit)
> It is only recently released and is reasonably basic in comparison to 
> AutoSprink, but I wouldn’t be without it.
>  
> Nicky Marshall
> Southern Regional Manager
> PROTECH DESIGN LIMITED
> Specialist Fire Protection Consultants
> Phone: +64 (0)3 579 5577 extn 2  Mobile: +64 (0)21 433 488  Email: 
> [email protected]  Skype: nicky-marshall Web :www.protechdesign.co.nz
> Address:105A Alabama Rd, Redwoodtown, Blenheim 7201, NZ Postal: PO Box 4022, 
> Redwood Village, Blenheim 7242, NZ
>  
> “I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I 
> realised I was somebody” Lily Tomlin
>  
> From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2017 2:49 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes
>  
> As this moment, the A/E community is using Revit at about 10-15% of its 
> capabilities.   Someday – likely in the not so distant future – Revit models 
> will be used to project the costs of lighting/heating/cooling, anticipated 
> scopes and costs for M&O programming and ITM for systems like sprinklers.   
> We didn’t wait for industry to furnish content; we created our own.  We now 
> have an extensive library of valves, hanger and brace assemblies, pipe, 
> fittings, etc.   But making families of objects is one thing.  Giving them 
> the attributes that will do all that cool stuff someday and writing code to 
> process the information to run calc’s or create ITM checklists or whatever … 
> well, those are much more complex tasks.   Revit is at the Model T stage 
> right now, but has the potential to be a carbon fiber hybrid super car.
>  
> SL
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:31 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes
>  
> You misread my post David.  I said REVIT has no design tools specifically for 
> fire protection design.  I didn’t say anything about HydraCad.
>  
> If all you have is REVIT, it is a pipe routing design tool and that is all.  
> You can stick sprinkler heads on the pipe and you can depict grooved pipe or 
> threaded pipe.  But calculations must be completed outside of REVIT.  It is 
> not a fire protection layout or calculation tool.
>  
> 
> Craig L. Prahl 
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> CH2M
> 200 Verdae Blvd. 
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540
> Fax - 864.920.7129
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
> 
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of David M. Canham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL]
>  
> I would disagree with that as I use HydraCAD for Revit every day.  Drawing 
> and head layout tools, hydraulic calculations and complete stock listing.
> They also offer an 8 week class through on line with homework and everything. 
>  It is a live on line class so you can ask questions and see stuff over as 
> well as a video of it to review later. I have used other software for years 
> and really had to struggle to keep an open mind but the class is very well 
> done and even an old dog like me is getting the hang of it.  Many things that 
> should be simple in Revit seem over complicated such as picking a few pipes 
> and trying to make just those one a different color, but there is also so 
> much potential.  The internal collision is good as well as a slick HyraCAD 
> for Revit tool that allows you to import the entire hit report from a 
> Navisworks file and it makes hit tags in your Revit file that show up in your 
> views.  Switchback also works well but that is a generic Revit tool that you 
> do not need HydraCad to use.
>  
> JUST TO BE CLEAR I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HYDRATECH OR AN INDORSING ANYTHING.  
> JUST RESPONDING TO THE POST WITH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE  
>  
> David M. Canham
> Fire Systems Solutions
> 15 Sayles Avenue
> Lincoln, RI 02865
> PH 401-725-1089
> Fax 401-725-1583
> Cell 508-277-3473
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes
>  
> There is no “fire protection design” for REVIT.  We use it to do layouts but 
> you are manually piping the system and locating sprinklers.  Nothing is 
> automated, you still have to manually input data into your calc program.  
> It’s a little bit clumsy to use, you have limited components with which to 
> build your systems, vendor provided families of some devices will kill your 
> model because they are overly detailed and create huge file sizes that no one 
> will reference.
>  
> They’ve told us they were working on an interface with other sprinkler 
> packages so we could model in REVIT to maintain compatibility and visibility 
> with the other disciplines and then there would be an interface with for 
> example, HydraCalc, but it’s not happened yet.
>  
> We’ve been using it to do detailed FP layouts for about five years now.
>  
> 
> Craig L. Prahl 
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> CH2M
> 200 Verdae Blvd. 
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540
> Fax - 864.920.7129
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
> 
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Jay White
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL]
>  
> Has anyone taken CAD Revit/BIM Classes for fire protection design? If so, who 
> was it taught by and were the classes online or in a classroom environment?
>  
> Jay White
> Sales/Design Manager
> Dynamic Fire Protection
> 9771 Highway 25 South
> Starkville, MS 39759
> PH:   662-312-2426
> FAX: 662-324-1545
>  
>  
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