You should try AutoSprink RVT - a Revit add on, that most importantly, lets you 
calculate in Revit!
Not quite the carbon fibre hybrid super car, but this takes a lot of the pain 
out of Revit and adds some great features that AutoSprink has.  (Still a lot of 
pain because it is still Revit)
It is only recently released and is reasonably basic in comparison to 
AutoSprink, but I wouldn't be without it.

Nicky Marshall
Southern Regional Manager
PROTECH DESIGN LIMITED
Specialist Fire Protection Consultants
Phone: +64 (0)3 579 5577 extn 2  Mobile: +64 (0)21 433 488  Email: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>  Skype: 
nicky-marshall Web :www.protechdesign.co.nz
Address:105A Alabama Rd, Redwoodtown, Blenheim 7201, NZ Postal: PO Box 4022, 
Redwood Village, Blenheim 7242, NZ

"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I 
realised I was somebody" Lily Tomlin

From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2017 2:49 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes

As this moment, the A/E community is using Revit at about 10-15% of its 
capabilities.   Someday - likely in the not so distant future - Revit models 
will be used to project the costs of lighting/heating/cooling, anticipated 
scopes and costs for M&O programming and ITM for systems like sprinklers.   We 
didn't wait for industry to furnish content; we created our own.  We now have 
an extensive library of valves, hanger and brace assemblies, pipe, fittings, 
etc.   But making families of objects is one thing.  Giving them the attributes 
that will do all that cool stuff someday and writing code to process the 
information to run calc's or create ITM checklists or whatever ... well, those 
are much more complex tasks.   Revit is at the Model T stage right now, but has 
the potential to be a carbon fiber hybrid super car.

SL

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:31 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes

You misread my post David.  I said REVIT has no design tools specifically for 
fire protection design.  I didn't say anything about HydraCad.

If all you have is REVIT, it is a pipe routing design tool and that is all.  
You can stick sprinkler heads on the pipe and you can depict grooved pipe or 
threaded pipe.  But calculations must be completed outside of REVIT.  It is not 
a fire protection layout or calculation tool.


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of David M. Canham
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:19 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL]

I would disagree with that as I use HydraCAD for Revit every day.  Drawing and 
head layout tools, hydraulic calculations and complete stock listing.
They also offer an 8 week class through on line with homework and everything.  
It is a live on line class so you can ask questions and see stuff over as well 
as a video of it to review later. I have used other software for years and 
really had to struggle to keep an open mind but the class is very well done and 
even an old dog like me is getting the hang of it.  Many things that should be 
simple in Revit seem over complicated such as picking a few pipes and trying to 
make just those one a different color, but there is also so much potential.  
The internal collision is good as well as a slick HyraCAD for Revit tool that 
allows you to import the entire hit report from a Navisworks file and it makes 
hit tags in your Revit file that show up in your views.  Switchback also works 
well but that is a generic Revit tool that you do not need HydraCad to use.

JUST TO BE CLEAR I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HYDRATECH OR AN INDORSING ANYTHING.  
JUST RESPONDING TO THE POST WITH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

David M. Canham
Fire Systems Solutions
15 Sayles Avenue
Lincoln, RI 02865
PH 401-725-1089
Fax 401-725-1583
Cell 508-277-3473

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:44 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Revit Fire Protection Classes

There is no "fire protection design" for REVIT.  We use it to do layouts but 
you are manually piping the system and locating sprinklers.  Nothing is 
automated, you still have to manually input data into your calc program.  It's 
a little bit clumsy to use, you have limited components with which to build 
your systems, vendor provided families of some devices will kill your model 
because they are overly detailed and create huge file sizes that no one will 
reference.

They've told us they were working on an interface with other sprinkler packages 
so we could model in REVIT to maintain compatibility and visibility with the 
other disciplines and then there would be an interface with for example, 
HydraCalc, but it's not happened yet.

We've been using it to do detailed FP layouts for about five years now.


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jay White
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:29 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Revit Fire Protection Classes [EXTERNAL]

Has anyone taken CAD Revit/BIM Classes for fire protection design? If so, who 
was it taught by and were the classes online or in a classroom environment?

Jay White
Sales/Design Manager
Dynamic Fire Protection
9771 Highway 25 South
Starkville, MS 39759
PH:   662-312-2426
FAX: 662-324-1545



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