There is a bunch of conflicting information here. If you have to do an area/ density curve, what I have works. If you have FM criteria, then you need a letter stating what the commodity and occupancy is and how it is stored, preferably with direction to specific tables in the data sheets. If someone wants ESFR protection and to follow FM criteria, they need to tell you the storage arrangement and where in DS 8-9 to look.
Nick Maneen, SET c 704.791.7789 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads Nick- I may be wrong but I don’t think you can do that with ESFR heads….. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com <http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Maneen Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads K=Q/ÖP K=42/Ö7 K=42/2.65 K=15.85 Use K14 sprinklers or K16.8 depending on what your water supply is. Nick Maneen, SET c 704.791.7789 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads Mark- So riddle me this, I’m working on a project that specifies ESFR heads and FM wants .42/2000. What are my options ? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com <http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin [FAR] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:46 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads So the answer is, no. FM has not banned ESFR systems. They have just stopped recognizing the ESFR term. Many sprinklers you know as ‘ESFR’ they simply refer to as a ‘storage sprinkler.’ Likewise as Travis and Craig noted, there are some sprinklers they recognize as ‘storage’ that are not identified as ESFR by the manufacturer. <http://www.SummitCoUS.com> Visit our Website at www.SummitCoUS.com Mark Sornsin Sr. Fire Protection Engineer Direct: 701-499-1391 Cell: 701-526-8585 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads I may be having a senior moment but I swear I remember reading something about FM not allowing ESFR systems….. Is that even remotely true? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. Design Manager bvssystemsinc.com <http://bvssystemsinc.com/> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935 ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
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