Richard- That’s the problem, I have no info on the commodity or storage height. We were asked to provide a price for an ESFR system, now after the fact they’re saying FM wants .42/2000. In my opinion it has to be one or the other…
Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Carr Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads If you have the info on the building, height , storage commodity and height use chapter 16 table 16.2.3.1 and it will tell you which ESFR and pressure. Richard M. Carr Project Manager/Design Diboco Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 325 Jackson Loop Road Flat Rock, NC 28731 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 828-696-3400 828-696-2288 Fax 828-708-9118 Mobile [cid:[email protected]] [cid:[email protected]] From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads Richard- But what pressure are you running the heads at? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Carr Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:59 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads Because ESFR would exceed the density requirement, I would think FM would be happy if you used ESFR. Richard M. Carr Project Manager/Design Diboco Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 325 Jackson Loop Road Flat Rock, NC 28731 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 828-696-3400 828-696-2288 Fax 828-708-9118 Mobile [cid:[email protected]] [cid:[email protected]] From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:55 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads Mark- So riddle me this, I’m working on a project that specifies ESFR heads and FM wants .42/2000. What are my options ? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin [FAR] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:46 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads So the answer is, no. FM has not banned ESFR systems. They have just stopped recognizing the ESFR term. Many sprinklers you know as ‘ESFR’ they simply refer to as a ‘storage sprinkler.’ Likewise as Travis and Craig noted, there are some sprinklers they recognize as ‘storage’ that are not identified as ESFR by the manufacturer. [Visit our Website at www.SummitCoUS.com]<http://www.SummitCoUS.com> Mark Sornsin Sr. Fire Protection Engineer Direct: 701-499-1391 Cell: 701-526-8585 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:26 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: FM Mutual & ESFR Heads I may be having a senior moment but I swear I remember reading something about FM not allowing ESFR systems….. Is that even remotely true? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. Design Manager bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935 ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
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