I’m old school and I find it difficult to read and interpret the current codes 
so I make my best WAG’s based on what I believe to be the intent. My basis is 
from the old 231 storage definitions that didn’t have the percentage of volume 
requirements that are so difficult to calculate. 

Class 1- noncombustible so it doesn’t burn. 
Class 2- Class 1 in a box or crate that will burn. 
Class 3- combustible so it burns. 

You should upgrade one or two classes if there is an “appreciable” amount of 
Group A plastic packaging or if the storage is on plastic pallets instead of 
wood pallets.  

So your metal product is a Class 1 and you upgrade to Class 2 with the plastic 
tubes. To be safe, you can upgrade to Class 3 cause your system can still 
protect it. 

Class 4- Class 1, 2, or 3 with “appreciable” amount of plastics. 

Therefore, my WAG’s says that it’s a Class 3 commodity. 
Just cause I’m curious, what exactly is this metal piece that’s packed in a 
plastic tube?

Rick Matsuda 


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Scott Futrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Keep in mind that depending upon the IFC edition that is adopted the IFC used 
> to have tables that did NOT match NFPA 13. So, if you haven’t, look at the 
> IFC, too.
>  
> Scott
>  
> From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 11:45 AM
> To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
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> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Definition of Volume
>  
> To complicate matters further, this project is in a jurisdiction using the 
> 2013 edition of 13, which only states 5% by weight or volume of Group A or B 
> plastics. No difference between expanded or non-expanded. 
>  
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
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