There are many considerations involved when dealing with molten metals and 
metals handling that aren't addressed in NFPA 13.

Whether it's an FPE or other qualified individual, you need someone who is 
capable and understanding of industrial process hazards.  That 's way outside 
the average NICET III or IV area of expertise.

An example of hazards are hydraulic oils and thermal transfer fluids which are  
often part of the extruding process equipment.  Flash points and operating 
pressures are influential when determining sprinkler criteria.  I'm not saying 
you have these hazards but you might and an OH design criteria ain't gonna cut 
it.  If there areas with open crucibles of molten metal, you won't want any 
sprinklers near that.

So, you need to inform whoever hired you or your company that there is more to 
this than just "providing sprinklers per NFPA 13".

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From: Bobby Welch <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 12:57 PM
To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Metal manufacturing

I have a building were they are making metal products by multiple processes 
including Metal Casting of steel, Metal Forging, Additive Manufacturing and hot 
rolling. Most of the building is open warehouse where they are producing metal 
products with 3D printers.  NFPA has metal workings listed as ordinary hazard 
but also has Die Casting and Metal extruding under Extra hazard group 1. Does 
anyone know where I would start to figure out what hazard is required for this 
building?

Bobby Welch | Sprinkler Systems Designer
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